2. | William Marston Green was born about 1715 in Amelia Co, Virginia (son of Thomas Abner Green and Elizabeth Marvell Marston); died about Feb 1746 in Prince William Co, Virginia. Notes:
From: "David T. Green"
Subject: Re: [GREEN-L] Right & Wrong Greens......
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:28:29 -0700
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Good Morning Doris;
I hate to be the one to rain on that parade, but it is not even remotely possible that the Thomas Green who married Lucy Davis is the son of William Green and Amey Clay. Here are just three or four points that come to mind:
1. When William died sometime after July 1744 but before August 1747, he left a rather detailed will naming his MINOR children including Thomas.
2. In the will William basically cut off Amey as soon as she remarried - which she did almost immediately.
At a court in July 1748, a Thomas Green Jr. (likely the son of Elizabeth Marston Green by process of elimination) petitioned to become the guardian of the MINOR children - - and was still their guardian even as late as October 1749 - - although some had married by this time.
3. Thomas, son of William and Amey Clay, inherited much of his father's estate and was still living on a portion of that land when he DIED in 1791. He too left a rather detailed will.
4. Major Thomas Green who married Lucy Davis was still very much alive for the 1810 Census (Page 254) and was still alive as late as 1813, contributed some service to the War of 1812 and served as County Commissioner as late as 1813. Lastly; he was "located" on a circa 1820 hand drawn map of Amelia County living in the same location where he bought the land from his father-in-law Peter Davis.
Taken together - - your newly found chart - - can not possible be correct.
It appears that somebody has made another "giant leap or assumption" without even bothering to check the public records.
Sincerely;
David T. Green
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From: "Tom Green"
Subject: Re: [GREEN-L] Right & Wrong Greens......
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:26:47 -0600
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Hi Doris,
David is correct, that the Thomas Green who married Lucy Davis could not have been the son of William and Amey Clay Green. William and Amey Clay Green's son Thomas Green, born about 1725, married a Martha, and his will names their children, one of which was the Elizabeth Green who married
Benjamin Meadows. The Thomas Green who married Lucy Davis had children named in the will of Lucy's father, Peter Davis (died 1785) and the names are totally different. They were Rosana Green, Lucy Davis Green, Pais Green, and probably Judith Green who married a Mr. Wells. Lucy Davis and Thomas Green did have a daughter named Elizabeth but she married Hampton Wade on January 7, 1795.
Wheither the Thomas Green that married Lucy Davis was the same Thomas Green who married Ann Berryman in about 1753 has not been proven one way or the other to my knowledge. The dates seems to almost work out, but they are all estimates. If you work backwards from the known dates they show that
Berryman Green married Lucy Ann Prichard on May 25, 1778 at Valley Forge, Pen. and he was said to have been born on January 24, 1754 in Westmoreland County, Virginia. Using these dates, his mother would have to have been born about 1730 to 1733. If her husband was the same Thomas Green that
later married Lucy Davis, and he died after 1820, that would make him about 90 years old if he was about the same age as his first wife, Ann Berryman.
These estimated dates are possible, but as I said, I have seen no proof this was the same Thomas Green.
For some time I have hoped that the Thomas Green that married Ann Berryman was the father of my William Green born Febraury 6, 1762 in Prince Edward County, Virginia, but it appears that Ann Berryman only had one son, Berryman Green, and she died before my William Green was born. I have a deed that shows that Thomas Green purchased 200 acres of land from Peter Davis on April 25, 1761 in Prince Edward County, Virginia, which is less than a year before my William Green was born there. I just knew that I have found my William's parents, but I have found nothing that would prove he was the father of my William Green.
To further complicate the matter a Berryman Green is also mentioned in Peter Davis' will as his grandson, which has caused much disagreement about who his mother was since Lucy Davis and Thomas Green did have a son named Thomas who married Eliza Julia Booker and she had a son named Berryman Green. This Berryman Green was a twin of Ann Flournoy Green, which is another famous Green name from another family. Berryman and Ann Green also had a brother named Carlos Green, which was a very uncommon name in that area at that
time.
I doubt that I have help you in any way, but there are others on the list that have researched this line, and maybe one of them can help.
Best Regards,
Tom Green
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From: "D J Peirce"
Subject: RE: [GREEN-L] Right & Wrong Greens......
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:08:17 -0500
In-Reply-To: <003101c0a5bb$65bc98e0$accbfed1@TomGreen>
It does seem strange, since Thomas & Lucy Davis Green had 9 children beside Berryman Green. And of course my connection is through the son, Thomas Jr, who married Eliza Julia Booker....they had 10 children [I have this from the copy of the bible records of Albert G. Green]..
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GREEN/2001-03/0983827607
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Amelia Co VA Order book 2:
PAGE 53 (SEPT 1747) widow Amey exec of Wm Green estate after named execs including her brother Henry Clay, 2 Greens, refuse appointment;
page 106 (20 Aug 1748) Benjamin Williamson and Amey his wife, late Amey Green, produced inventory of Wm Green estate;
page 138 there was a squabble continued over who was to do the filing of an inventory, maybe about when;
page 123: 20 Jan 1748/9 (really 1749 by today's system-as seen from sequence) Thomas Green Jr. be appointed guardian to (orphans under 21) Martha, Amey, Thomas, William, Phimour and John (green it lists surname after each
given name) (Thomas Green Jr is uncle of the children)
William married Amey Clay about 1735 in Westmoreland Co, Virginia. Amey (daughter of Henry Clay, I and Mary Mitchell) was born about 1715 in Southern Parish, Cumberland Co, Virginia; died in 1774. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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