| 15. | Annie* Payne was born about 1780 in Virginia; died after 1830 in of, Maury Co, Tennessee. Notes:
Subj: Sheltons & Paynes
Date: 8/20/98 12:34:52 PM Central Daylight Time
From: GLSH@chevron.com (Shelton, Glenmore (GLSH))
To: Lumoto@aol.com ('Lumoto@aol.com')
Sherry,
Am pasting in some patches of Payne-Shelton connections from my file. The ones I know about seem to have mostly stayed put in Pittsylvania Co., VA, but bunches of their cousins headed west to NC & TN in the late 1700's &
early 1800's. As you can probably see, my family tree didn't branch much at that time. Sort of like your Sheltons & Shermans. I have seen a tendency of my Sheltons to pick another clan and just keep marrying them. Wonder if it's genetic? (My sister married my wife's brother, so we were just carrying on an old family tradition.) Wish I had more on the male Paynes
descendents of my ancestor Paynes; I would almost bet one of them was your Annie's father. The Pittsylvania Sheltons were a prolific bunch. The brothers born from 1707 to 1729 included John, Thomas, Ralph, Benjamin,
James, Crispen, & Daniel; I really don't have much on the descendents except from Ralph, Crispen, & Daniel, and not all of those.
Some other comments:
1) You list one son of George & Annie as 'Washington'; was he really George Washington Shelton Jr., & just called Washington to avoid confusion with the father? (I am Glenmore Lorraine III, and my grandfather was called
Glenmore, my father was called Lorraine (rough on a kid, huh?), and I was called Shell)
2) I saw reference to another marriage in Maury Co., TN in 1817- between a William Shelton (there are thousands of those!!) and a Martha Pain. Wonder if she was really a Payne.
3) Notes that Stephen Shelton is on 1820 Census for Giles Co, TN. A Stephen Shelton is on the 1805 Grainger Co, TN tax list, 1811 Maury Co, TN tax list, and 1819 Giles Co, TN tax list. He does not state that all these
are the same Stephen, simply that they may or may not be.
4) County Records:
23 April 1813. Alfred Blach of Davidson Co TN conveys lot no. 27 in the town of
Columbia to JOHN SHELTON of Maury Co TN (215)
Surveyed for WILLIAM SHELTON, p 341.
5) from EmmaLBob: John Shelton of Maury Co TN was b. ca 1768 in King
William Co VA - died 24 June
1835 in Columbia, Maury Co TN. His wf Elizabeth____ Shelton b. 16 Nov 1779,
d. 23 Nov 1845. Both buried in Greenwood Cem.
Children:
(1) Colley P.A. Shelton
(2) James R. Shelton m.
Mary Alderson
b. 9 Oct 1799, Richmond Co VA 6 Dec 1821 b. 1 Jul 1806
VA
d. 15 Mar 1875 Maury Co TN d. 20
Mar 1883
[both buried Greenwood Cem]
(3) William D. Shelton
(4) John M. Shelton
(5) Margaret P. Shelton m. Brooks
(6) Amanda Shelton m. John B. Alderson
ch: Margaret, Mary
(7) Sarah Shelton m. Ada B. Hodge 18 Oct 1833
ch: James R Hodge
John Shelton made his will 16 May 1835 and named his wf as executrix and
willed her the slave Maria and her child Sarah. His seven children were
named in the will. Maury Co TN Will Bill C:268-269.
The above fr: Shelton Roots Through TN by Frank Harvey Shelton, c.1979
There is addition info on son James R. Shelton who removed to TX 1837.
These two items (#4 & #5) seem to suggest a King William Co., VA origin for
at least one batch of Maury Co., TN Sheltons, but I don't see any of your
names in this batch.
6) There was a marriage bond in Pittsylvania Co., VA for John Shelton to
marry Anne Payne on 5/28/1804. Abal Wilson is listed as guardian, but I
don't know for which one. Wonder if this is a connection to your Wilsons
line?
7) From the ZF Shelton book: 4. John Payne Shelton, "Inherited Red House",
md Massie (Shelton) (d/o Major Thomas Shelton of Louisa Co., VA.), four
children.
8) more from ZF Shelton: 6. John Shelton, 3rd owner of "Red House", d.
1828, md. Mary (Payne).
9) In your 'family letter' reference is made to "Cousin Robert Willis". Is
that really Willis (not Wallis)? If so, perhaps there is another
Pittsylvania link- the Willis name appears at least twice in my files, once
as the middle name of John Shelton and again as the surname of my g-whatever
aunt Mary Yeatts.
Children of John Shelton and Mary Payne are:
i. Lettice Shelton, married (1) Abraham Shelton
December 17, 1792198; married (2) Robert Haymes November 16, 1807.
Notes for Abraham Shelton:
Hugh & Ida Taylor's book, 'Some Early
Settlers; Lincoln County, Tennessee', attributes a daughter Lettye Shelton
to this Abraham and Lettice. Lettye married an Archibald Cashion.
More About Abraham Shelton:
Fact 1: November 16, 1807, may have married
Robert Haymes (per Millie (GeneSeek@usa.net))
ii. Nancy Shelton, married William White January
13, 1795199.
iii. Charlotte Shelton, married John
Willis Shelton , Sr. Bef. 1785200.
Children of Stephen Yeatts and Lydia Parsons are:
i. Mary Molly Yeatts, born in Pittsylvania Co., VA;
married Thomas Willis August 18, 1789 in Pittsylvania Co., VA141.
Hope some of this helps eventually.
"so bye"
Glen Shelton
River Ridge LA
258. Thomas Payne126,127, born 1755; died December 1819 in Pittsylvania
Co., VA. He was the son of 516. William Payne and 517. Sarah Nance. He
married 259. Francis Shelton128,129.
259. Francis Shelton 130,131, died Bef. 1801132. She was the daughter of
518. John Shelton , Jr. and 519. Mary Payne.
More About Thomas Payne:
Fact 1: all 7 children mentioned in Thomas' will, dated 11/14/1819.
Children of Thomas Payne and Francis Shelton are:
129 i. Elizabeth Frances 'Fannie' Payne, born Abt. 1776;
married Tunstall W. Shelton , Sr. December 15, 1794 in Pittsylvania Co., VA.
ii. John L. Payne, married Milly Richards February 20,
1795 in Pittsylvania Co., VA.
Children of Thomas Payne and Sally Shelton are:
i. Jane B. Payne, born Abt. 1803; married Lewis C.
Shelton December 15, 1823 in Pittsylvania Co., VA133.
More About Jane B. Payne:
Fact 1: married same day/same bondsman &
minister as Milly Payne & John Grasty Shelton
Marriage Notes for Jane Payne and Lewis
Shelton:
Surety: John L. Payne
by Rev. Ira Ellis
ii. Leroy Payne, born Abt. 1796 in Pittsylvania Co., VA;
died Bef. 1843; married Rachel Hill December 19, 1825 in Pittsylvania Co.,
VA.
iii. Mildred Payne, born 1809 in Pittsylvania Co., VA;
married John Grasty Shelton December 15, 1823 in Pittsylvania Co., VA134.
More About Mildred Payne:
Fact 1: this Milly could be d/o John L.
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From: jan241@apex.net (Jan)
To: Lumoto@aol.com
Hi Sherry,
Sorry about taking so long to get back with you. Could not find Annie Payne; am sending you what I have and hope something in it will help.
Jan
Ancestors of Thomas Payne
Generation No. 1
1. Thomas Payne, born 1755; died December 1819 in Pittsylvania Co., VA.
He married (1) Francis Shelton. She was the daughter of John Shelton II and Mary Payne. He married (2) Sally Shelton October 15, 1795 in Pittsylvania Co., VA. She was the daughter of Daniel Shelton and Lettice
(Lettie) Young.
Notes for Thomas Payne:
PAYNE Thomas SHELTON, Sally 15 Oct 1795
from book 'An Intimate History of The
American Revolution in Pittsylvania County' by Frances Hallam Hurt dated 1976. Paynes listed:Abraham, Alexander Spottswood, Dolley, Greenwood, John,
John Jr., John Sr., John Robert Dandridge, Josias, Luther, Millicent, Neil G., Philemon, Reuben, Robert, Thomas, Wiliam. A family of broad involvement during the Revolution and of broad involvement now is that of the Paynes.
John Payne, Sr., was elected to the Committee of Safety in 1775, having been in the county since 1767 when he, his son John,Jr., and Greenwood Payne were listed as first tithables. It was apparently his son John who was appointed ensign in the militia. His great-nephews (grandsons of his brother, Colonel John Payne) Alexander Spottswood Payne and John Robert Dandridge Payne, are the subjects of one of the Virginia Museum's most attractive early paintings-two young boys with their mammy.
John Payne, Sr., is of special interest as the father of the enchanting Dolley Payne who married President James Madison. She was the widow of John Todd. The Pittsylvania Payne was the son of Josias Payne of Licking Hole
Creek in Goochland County, which both Josias and his brother John represented in the House of Burgesses. Josias apparently came to Pittsylvania in his later years to live with his son John, for he died there. His will was recorded in 1785. John, the Safety Committee
member,married Mary Coles of Coles' Hill of Hanover County, and they were the parents of Dolley who apparently grew up in Hanover.
Another family of Paynes was equally prominent-that of Reuben, William, and Philemon. They owned large grants of land in Pittsylvania before it was Pittsylvania, moving here from Essex County. They were the sons of Thomas
Payne.
Other early Paynes were Robert and Abraham. Reuben was named justice when the county assumed its present size in 1777 and a lieutenant in the county militia when it was gearing for war. He served as a vestryman of Camden
Parish until 1779 when he resigned, refusing to pay taxes through the Church of England. Philemon was appointed deputy surveyor in 1767, and William went to war.
The following story is told by Major (Ret.) Neil G. Payne-one of the few traditional family stories of the Revolution.
The Grapevine
I am alive and well today due largely to a grapevine which was growing in New York State in 1775.
The vine probably was already growing when William Payne, together with his brothers Reuben and Philemon, moved into Pittsylvania County and settled on Cherrystone Creek, the headwaters of Banister River.
William, my great-great-great grandfather, married Miss Sarah Nance and had begun the satisfying life of managing his large plantation north of Chatham. But this idyllic life was not destined to continue after the rumblings of war drifted souh from Lexington and Concord.
Taking with him his trusted slave Tom, William Payne rode north at the head of a company of fellow Pittsylvanians to join General Washington's Army. He served as captain throughout the war without pay, furnishing his own clothing and much of hs food.
As often as possible, Tom was sent home bearing notes from area soldiers.Tradition has it that Tom was instrumental in writing some of the letters,since his mistress had taught him to read and write before he left
with Captain Payne. Many early settlers lacked schooling in these arts.
On the return trip Tom made his way north over miles of unmarked roads and trails, burdened with as many letters, clothes, and bits of food as he could shoulder.
Captain Payne normally would direct the fire and movement of his small company of volunteers during skirmishes with the British, but on one occasion he was so intent on heaping destruction upon the garishly dressed British soldiers that he did ot hear a general call for retreat.
Will Payne had wheeled about and was running to rejoin his countrymen when his foot caught under a grapevine and he sprawled headlong into the dust.
At exactly this moment an enemy soldier pulled the trigger of his musket and the ball, aimed dead center at the back of the retreating captain,buried itself in a tree. Will regained his feet and ran.
When the war was over Payne and his company returned to their homes. Many British soldiers chose to remain in America, too, so history states.
Years later one such soldier visited the home of Will Payne, and host and guest recounted their wartime experiences. To their amazement it was learned that the visiting ex-Britisher was the soldier who had missed his
target when the rebel captain fell over a grapevine.
Payne family historians write of the close friendship which developed between the two men who, earlier, had sought to destroy each other.
From_: DGShel@aol.com
Glen Shelton
River Ridge LA
Children of THOMAS PAYNE and FRANCIS SHELTON are:
i. ELIZABETH FRANCES 'FANNIE'3 PAYNE, b. Abt. 1776.
ii. JOHN L. PAYNE.
Children of THOMAS PAYNE and SALLY SHELTON are:
iii.JANE B.3 PAYNE, b. Abt. 1803.
iv. LEROY PAYNE, b. Abt. 1796, Pittsylvania Co., VA; d. Bef. 1843.
v. MILDRED PAYNE, b. 1809, Pittsylvania Co., VA.
vi. BENJAMIN PAYNE, b. Abt. 1802, Pittsylvania Co., VA; m. MARTHA LEWIS'PATSEY' SHELTON, July 05, 1827, Pittsylvania Co., VA.
vii. REUBEN PAYNE, b. January 09, 1804, Pittsylvania Co., VA; d. December 08, 1847; m. TABITHA S. HODGES, January 01, 1833, Pittsylvania Co., VA.
Notes for Francis Shelton:
Frances had died before her father's will was made in 1801 which is why her portion went to her daughter Fannie.Had died before her father's will was made in 1801 which is why her portion went to her daughter Fannie.
Source: Shelton County
generation 1: Old Ralph Shelton & Mary Crispin(?)
generation 2: John Shelton Sr. & Elizabeth Lawson (?)
generation 3: John Shelton Jr. & Mary Payne (?)
generation 4: Francis Shelton & Thomas Payne
generation 5: Fannie Payne & Tunstal Shelton
generation 6: Abraham Madison Shelton married 1835 Martha 'Patsy' Motley
generation 7: George Jefferson Shelton & Edna Elizabeth Yeatts
generation 8: Richard White Shelton & Burda Barr
generation 9: Glenmore Lorraine Shelton Sr. & Helen Bertrude Chelton
generation 10: Glenmore Lorraine Shelton Jr. & Harriett E Streever ('E' is
her whole middle name, not just an initial)
generation 11: Glenmore Lorraine Shelton III (me) & Dianna Lynn Hannan
Glen is member of Shelton Discussion Group
Notes for Sally Shelton:
PAYNE Thomas SHELTON, Sally 15 Oct 1795
Child of Thomas Payne and Francis Shelton is:
i. Elizabeth Frances (Fannie) Payne, born Abt. 1776; died Unknown; married (1) Tunstall Shelton December 15, 1794 in Pittsylvania Co., VA; married (2) Tunstall Shelton December 15, 1794 in Pittsylvania County,
Virginia.
Notes for Tunstall Shelton:
Married by Rev. Thomas Payne, Thomas Payne consents, Sur. Young Shelton.
Source:
Kathryn Morris Brown
Jan,
The John Shelton I have married to Mary Payne is John born c. 1745, the son of John born 1722. It was John the father who was married to an Elizabeth. These references I have attributed to April Miller's book, Shelton County, and
I have not yet found anything particularly convincing to say she was in error on this. April discussed the existence of Johns Sr. & Jr. and that they were
frequently confused with each other. (Hard to believe anyone could ever confuse these Johns, Abrahams, & Lettices, :>) I have also received some corroberating e-mails from Kitty Richards, and from this list (Knights5). I think it was a post of Anne McElroy that listed Mary (d/o George) Payne as wife of John Shelton.John (Jr.) had a son Abraham, who married Peggy Gibson, and a daughter Lettice, who married Abraham Shelton the son of Gabriel, in
1792,and a daughter Frances, who married Thomas Payne. Frances & Thomas then had a daughter Fannie who married Tunstal Shelton (son of Daniel the brother of John
the father). I descend from Tunstal & Fannie, and thus from two sons of Old Ralph (John Sr. & Daniel). I still cannot tell if Thomas Payne (son-in-law of John Jr.) and Mary Payne (wife of John Jr.) were related, but I bet they were, somehow.
I am not highly confident I have all this correct, but I think at least the dates and relationships are 'possible', i.e. parents not born after children etc., and generations seem of 'normal' length.
I'll look for more on this later, and send if I find anything.
Glen Shelton
River Ridge LA-DGShel@aol.com-
Children of ELIZABETH PAYNE and TUNSTALL SHELTON are:
i.TEMPERANCE C.4 SHELTON, b. Abt. 1802; m. RICHARD G. KEATTS, July
17,1820, Pittsylvania Co., VA12.
Marriage Notes for TEMPERANCE SHELTON and RICHARD KEATTS:
Sur. by Leroy Payne
Marriage Notes for FREDERICK SHELTON and MARINDA SHELTON:
Surety: Leroy Payne
Notes for Tunstall Shelton:
Married by Rev. Thomas Payne, Thomas Payne consents, Sur. Young Shelton.
Source:
Kathryn Morris Brown
Jan,
The John Shelton I have married to Mary Payne is John born c. 1745, the son of John born 1722. It was John the father who was married to an Elizabeth. These references I have attributed to April Miller's book, Shelton County, and
I have not yet found anything particularly convincing to say she was in error on this. April discussed the existence of Johns Sr. & Jr. and that they were frequently confused with each other. (Hard to believe anyone could ever confuse these Johns, Abrahams, & Lettices, :>) I have also received some corroberating e-mails from Kitty Richards, and from this list (Knights5). I think it was a post of Anne McElroy that listed Mary (d/o George) Payne as
wife of John Shelton.John (Jr.) had a son Abraham, who married Peggy Gibson, and a daughter Lettice, who married Abraham Shelton the son of Gabriel, in 1792,and a daughter Frances, who married Thomas Payne. Frances & Thomas
then had a daughter Fannie who married Tunstal Shelton (son of Daniel the brother of John the father). I descend from Tunstal & Fannie, and thus from two sons of Old
Ralph (John Sr. & Daniel). I still cannot tell if Thomas Payne (son-in-law of John Jr.) and Mary Payne (wife of John Jr.) were related, but I bet they were, somehow.
I am not highly confident I have all this correct, but I think at least the dates and relationships are 'possible', i.e. parents not born after children etc., and generations seem of 'normal' length. I'll look for more on this later, and send if I find anything.
Glen Shelton
River Ridge LA-DGShel@aol.com-
Marriage Notes for TEMPERANCE SHELTON and RICHARD KEATTS:
Sur. by Leroy Payne
Child of Thomas Payne and Sally Shelton is:
i. Jane B. Payne, married Lewis Shelton December 1823.
Payne, or of Thomas Payne (& Sally Shelton)
Marriage Notes for Mildred Payne and John Shelton:
Surety: John L. Payne
by Rev. Ira Ellis
iv. Benjamin Payne, born Abt. 1802 in Pittsylvania Co.,
VA; married Martha Lewis 'Patsey' Shelton July 05, 1827 in Pittsylvania Co.,
VA.
v. Reuben Payne, born January 09, 1804 in Pittsylvania Co., VA; died December 08, 1847; married Tabitha S. Hodges January 01, 1833 in Pittsylvania Co., VA.
516. William Payne192. He married 517. Sarah Nance193.
517. Sarah Nance 194.
Child of William Payne and Sarah Nance is:
258 i. Thomas Payne, born 1755; died December 1819 in Pittsylvania Co., VA; married (1) Francis Shelton; married (2) Sally Shelton October 16, 1795 in Pittsylvania Co., VA.
518. John Shelton , Jr.195, born Abt. 1745 in Amelia Co. VA; died Abt. 1804 in Pittsylvania Co., VA. He was the son of 1036. John Shelton , Sr. and 1037. Elizabeth Johnson. He married 519. Mary Payne196.
519. Mary Payne197. She was the daughter of 1038. George Payne , Sr..
More About John Shelton , Jr.:
Fact 1: Revolutionary War soldier (private, under Col. Alexander Spottswood)
Children of John Shelton and Mary Payne are:
i. Lettice Shelton, married (1) Abraham Shelton
December 17, 1792198; married (2) Robert Haymes November 16, 1807.
Notes for Abraham Shelton:
Hugh & Ida Taylor's book, 'Some Early
Settlers; Lincoln County, Tennessee', attributes a daughter Lettye Shelton
to this Abraham and Lettice. Lettye married an Archibald Cashion.
More About Abraham Shelton:
Fact 1: November 16, 1807, may have married Robert Haymes (per Millie (GeneSeek@aol.com))
ii. Nancy Shelton, married William White January 13, 1795 199.
iii. Charlotte Shelton, married John Willis Shelton , Sr. Bef. 1785 200.
iv. Martha Shelton, married Robert Tucker January 01, 1782 201.
v. Mary Shelton, married Adam Poore.
vi. Jane Shelton, married Charles Lewis , Jr..
259 vii.Francis Shelton, died Bef. 1801; married Thomas Payne.
viii.Abraham Shelton, married Peggy Gibson February 24, 1808 in Pittsylvania Co., VA202,203.
ix. Lucy Shelton, married West Dandridge Hurt May 17, 1790 in Pittsylvania VA204.
x. William Shelton, born 1762205; married Martitia Taylor October 29, 1786 in Pittsylvania Co., VA.
More About William Shelton:
Fact 1: This William may belong to Abraham & Chloe instead (per Anne McElroy)
xi. Claiborne Shelton, born 1770 in Pittsylvania Co., VA; died 1848 in Madison Co., IN206; married Saluda Mustain May 16, 1785207.
xii.Joel Shelton, born Abt. 1785; married (1) Anna Coe September 23, 1807 in Pittsylvania Co., VA208; married (2) Emily Smith April 29, 1810 in Pittsylvania Co., VA 209.
1036. John Shelton , Sr.251, born July 19, 1722 in Middlesex Co., VA; died July 13, 1778 in Mecklenberg Co., KY252. He was the son of 2072. Ralph Shelton and 2073. Mary Jane Crispin. He married 1037. Elizabeth Johnson253.
1037. Elizabeth Johnson254, died Bef. November 18, 1777.
More About John Shelton , Sr.:
Fact 1: 1726, alternate date of birth per GeneSeek@
More About Elizabeth Lawson:
Fact 1: Some have Elizabeth Lawson as wife of John Shelton, Jr.
Children of John Shelton and Elizabeth Johnson are:
i. Mark Shelton, died Abt. 1802; married Rachel ?.
More About Mark Shelton:
Fact 1: 9 children
ii. Charles Shelton, died Abt. 1795; married Nancy.
518 iii. John Shelton , Jr., born Abt. 1745 in Amelia Co. VA;
died Abt. 1804 in Pittsylvania Co., VA; married Mary Payne.
iv. William Shelton , Sr..
Children of John Shelton and Elizabeth Lawson are:
i. David Shelton, born June 11, 1761.
ii. Elizabeth Shelton, born February 28, 1763.
iii. William Shelton, born March 09, 1765.
More About William Shelton:
Fact 1: Some have this William as husband of Martisha Taylor.
Fact 2: Some have this William as husband of Priscilla Mustain, & Elizabeth C. Johnson.
1038. George Payne , Sr.255.
Child of George Payne , Sr. is:
519 i. Mary Payne, married John Shelton , Jr..
Children:
- George Washington Shelton, Jr. was born in 1805 in Tennessee; died after 1850 in of, Chambers Co, Texas.
- Susannah* Payne (or G.) Shelton was born on 22 Oct 1811 in Tennessee; died after 1880 in Johnson Co, Texas.
- Martha Wilson Shelton was born in 1816 in Tennessee; died after 1860 in of, Chambers Co, Texas.
- Kesiah E. Shelton was born in 1820 in Maury Co, Tennessee; died on 12 Aug 1849 in Lauderdale Co, Alabama (maybe).
- Polly Shelton was born about 1823; died after 1841.
- Amos Clinton Shelton was born on 15 Mar 1825 in Maury Co, Tennessee; died on 18 Jan 1881 in Wallisville, Chambers Co, Texas; was buried in Wiggins Cem, Eminence, Chambers Co, Texas.
- Candice Mariah "Marie" Shelton was born in 1828 in Tennessee; died after 1880 in of, Lampasas, Lampasas Co, Texas.
- 7. Tabitha Jane Shelton was born in 1828 in Tennessee; died after 1870 in Chambers Co, Texas.
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William Kirk Sherman was born on 18 Oct 1856 in Chambers Co, Texas (son of Lothrop* Brockway Sherman and Mary* Sophronia Kirk); died on 18 Nov 1917 in Chambers Co, Texas; was buried in Sherman Cem, Lake Charlotte, Chambers Co, Texas. 