Esq Thomas Marsh

Other Events and Attributes:

• Will: 7 Jan 1782, Queen Ann Co, Maryland

Notes:

Will:
"I, Thomas Marsh of Queen Ann's County in the province of Maryland . . . being of sound mind, &c. ... do give and bequeath . . . All my lands in Cecil, and all my lands in Kent Island in Queen Ann's County and my plantation on the main road to Queen's Town in the s'd County which I lately bought of Thomas Emory unto my grandson, Thomas Marsh Forman and his Heirs . . . and for default of such heirs, to my grandson, Joseph Forman, and his heirs, and in default of such heirs to my grandson Wm. Forman, and his heirs, and for default of such heirs, to the first, second, third and fourth and every other son and sons of the Body of my Daughter, Ann Forman . . . according to priority of birth . . . and in default of such heirs, to daughters of my daughter, Augustina and daughters of Ann.

To my grandson, Jos. Forman, grist-mill at Head of Island Creek; and land near Kingstown, and houses (&c) in Chestertown . . . and for default of such heirs, to my grandson Thomas, and in default of such heirs to my grandson William, and and in default of such heirs to the first, second and third sons of my daughter Ann . . . in default, to daughters of Ann and Augustina . . . (other property, same reversion). To Thomas Whittington, son of Jane Whittington, my plantation bought of Walter Nevil ... in default of heirs, to grandson Jos. Forman, in default, to grandson Thomas Marsh Forman ... in default, to grandson Wm. Forman ... in default, to daughters of Ann and Augustina . . . Son-in-law Ezekiel Forman to have custody and management of Estate devised to Thos. Marsh Forman and of Estate devised to Thos. Whittington ... To Thos. Marsh Forman my Sword (&c).

All silver plate to two grand daughters, Elizabeth, daughter of Ezekiel Forman and my daughter Augustina his wife, and Sarah, daughter of David Forman and my daughter Ann, his wife. . . . Executors?Son-in-law Ezekiel Forman and my friends, James Frisby, Thomas Ringgold, of Kent, and John Thompson and Dr. Samuel Thompson, his brother, of Queen Anne's County. . . .

In witness (

Thomas married Mary Thompson about 1739. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Ann Frisby. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Thomas Marsh Forman was born on Kentt Island, Maryland, Aug 20 1758. he was the eldest son of Ezekiel Forman (elder bro of Gen David Forman) by his first marriage with Augustine Marsh. Augustine Marsh was a half-sister of Mrs. David Forman and was descended from Augustine Herman who founded Bohemia Manor in Maryland in the seventeenth century."

http://www.archive.org/stream/threerevolutiona00form#page/24/mode/2up

Family/Spouse: Ezekiel (elder bro of Gen. David) Forman. Ezekiel (son of Joseph Forman and Elizabeth Lee) was born on 10 Oct 1736 in of, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; died on 29 May 1795 in Natchez, Mississippi. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Ann married General David Forman on 28 Feb 1767 in New Jersey. David (son of Joseph Forman and Elizabeth Lee) was born on 3 Nov 1745 in Monmouth Co, New Jersey; died on 12 Sep 1797 in New Province, The Bahamas ; was buried in Old Tennent Churchyard, Tennent, Monmouth Co, New Jesey. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Other-Begin: 10 Sep 1783, Queen Anne Co, Maryland
• Other-Begin: 25 May 1785, Queen Anne Co, Maryland
• Organizations: 1830, Maryland Jockey Club; President

Notes:

info about General Thomas Marsh Forman is in book "A History of Savannah and South Georgia," vol 2
Google Book, pg 592-593

https://books.google.com/books?id=zv9HAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA593&lpg=PA593&dq=Robert+Forman,+Amersterdam,+Charter+for+Flushing,+New+Amersterdam&source=bl&ots=fyS9R8CZ35&sig=zoRPo50zEpV6QyyIhxFc06tm1D0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiRiLW5grLJAhVLRiYKHccQBcEQ6AEIJDAB#v=snippet&q=marsh%20forman&f=false

From: Billie Grunden bilfre64@yahoo.com
Date: 4/29/2017 8:14:13 PM
To: Sherry Sharp
Subject: Re: Gen. Thomas Marsh Forman

Dear Sherry. I noticed after sending my first email that you are in Beaumont. I am in Jasper. It would be pretty easy for us to get together sometime.

I think that the Dandridge book is probably accurate for most of the Formans. It being a delicate situation with the out of wedlock children of Gen.Thomas Marsh Forman left her with some questions unanswered. Thomas Marsh Foreman inherited his Grandfather Marsh's property. He married a rich widow older than himself. She died leaving him very wealthy. He must have enjoyed the playboy life for a time. On the 10th of Sep. 1783, Thomas M Forman signed a document in Queen Anne's County Maryland acknowledgeing that he is the father of two children born of Hannah Osburn, one named James and another named Sarah. On the 25 of May, 1785, he signs pledging his support of another child of Hannah Osburn named Emma. It seems that he may have fathered Emma and another child with a different woman at about the same time. The other child was Delia, daughter of Elizabeth Price. I do not know what happened to Elizabeth Price. I have not found a marriage record for her to Thomas M. Forman, but Delia was the socially acknowledged child. It seems he may have raised her. Maybe her mother died or maybe they married for a short time and then she died. At any rate, he married Martha Ogleman in 1814. Martha kept a diary. It is in the series of microfilmed records called Ante-Bellum Southern Plantations from the Revolutionary though the Civil War.Series D, Martha Forman Diaries, 1814-1860, Cecil County, Maryland. In the diary, Martha gushes over Delia's children and calls them their grandchildren, but never let's her diary audience know the relationship to Sarah's children. Sarah married Bennett Downes and had children named Thomas F. Downes, Mary Emaline, Richard Charles,James Marsh, Sallie Ann, Henry E., and William Bennett Downes. Captain Benentt Downes died in 1820 and Sarah died in 1824. Thomas Marsh Forman spent the largest amount of money at the auction of the household goods. The children and the parents are all mentioned in the diary but no mention of the realtionship. I am a descendant of Sally Ann Downes, so that makes me feel badly for the children. However, in the will of Thomas Marsh Forman, he names all his living grandchildren and seems to prefer the Downes children over some of Delia Bryan's children. He gave everything to Joseph Bryan on the condition that Joseph change his name to Thomas Marsh Forman. If Joseph Bryan did not change his name,then his property should be divided among the Downes children. Of course Joseph changed his name. In the diary, Sallie Ann actually lived with the General and Martha for a time.

I am attaching a document from the Maryland Archives. I have a lot more but this is already long. I have done the ancestry.com family finder and the familytreedna family finder test. I match one lady whose only common ancestor is a Forman. She descended from David, brother of Ezekiel and uncle of Thomas Marsh Forman. I have the Pate Family Tree on ancestry.com, a rather small tree of mostly my father's direct line. His mother was Mary Hellen Gilpin who was the grandaughter of Sallie Ann Downes.

All for now,
Billie Grunden, Jasper, TX

Other-Begin:
On the 10th of Sep. 1783, Thomas M Forman signed a document in Queen Anne's County Maryland acknowledgeing that he is the father of two children born of Hannah Osburn, one named James and another named Sarah.
(email from Billie Grunden)

Other-Begin:
On the 25 of May, 1785, he signs pledging his support of another child of Hannah Osburn named Emma.

Organizations:
"Gen. T.M. Forman was fond of racing and owned horses in conjunction with John Randolph of Roanoak. He became the first president of the Maryland Jockey Club in 1830. He retained his activity in a remarkable degree, being able to ride horseback for long distances when a very old man."

http://www.archive.org/stream/threerevolutiona00form#page/26/mode/2up


Buried:
his home.

Thomas married Hannah Osburn in (not married). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Elizabeth Price. Elizabeth was buried in "Rose Hill," Cecil Co, Maryland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Thomas married Martha Brown Ogle (or Ogleman) on 19 May 1814 in "Rose Hill," Cecil Co, Maryland. Martha (daughter of James Ogle and Ann Browne) was born on 6 Feb 1788; died on 25 Jul 864 in Newark, Delaware; was buried in St. James, Stanton, Delaware. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: General Benjamin Chambers. Benjamin was born in of, Chestertown, Kent Co, Maryland; died in of, Chestertown, Kent Co, Maryland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Sarah married Andrew Van Bibber about 1783. Andrew was born about 1763 in of, Gloucester Co, Virginia; died after 1790. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Jane Spear about 1784. Jane was born about 1764; died after 1790. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Margaret Neilson about 1775. Margaret was born about 1764; died after 1796 in of, Natchez, Mississippi. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Sarah married Major William Gordon Forman before 1797. William (son of Joseph Forman and Amelia Gale) was born on 22 Jun 1770 in Monmouth Co, New Jersey; died on 3 Oct 1812 in Lexington, Kentucky. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Ann married Jonathan Longstreet after 1797. Jonathan was born about 1779; died after 1780. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Emma married Robert Cumming about 1805. Robert was born about 1785 in of, Baltimore, Maryland; died after 1850. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Died:
she was named in his will, but is also listed as deceased at the time of his death in the book "Three Revolutionary Soldiers"
http://www.archive.org/stream/threerevolutiona00form#page/16/mode/2up

Notes:

In a sketch written by Miss Malvina Forman (dau of David):
"My dear father was born in New Jersey, Nov 3 1745. His parents were Joseph Forman and Elizabeth Lee. His father was a wealth shipping merchant of New York, afterwards retired from business, and settled on one of his farms in Monmouth Co, N.J. My father was educated at Princeton College; my mother was born Maryland, Dec 3, 1751. On the 28th of Feb, 1767, my father was married to Miss Ann Marsh (daughter of Thomas Marsh, Esq. of Maryland) by the Rev. William Tennent In consequence of my grandmother's death (Mrs. Thomas Marsh), my parents were married in Princeton, at the house of Ezekiel Forman, Esq, the elder brother of my father, who married my mother's elder and only sister. I think my father left Monmouth, where he resided during the Revolution, on the 5th of February, 1794, and removed to Chestertown, Md. Gen. Forman left his own house in Chestertown, Sep 10, 1796 in order to attend to a large landed estate which he owned at Natchez, Miss."

http://www.archive.org/stream/threerevolutiona00form#page/16/mode/2up

Died:
died at a very advanced age in Fauquier Co, Virginia

Rivine married James Neilson about 1811. James (son of General John Neilson) was born about 1791; died after 1816. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Capt. Bennett Downes. Bennett died in 1820. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

On the 25 of May, 1785, he signs pledging his support of another child of Hannah Osburn named Emma. It seems that he may have fathered Emma and another child with a different woman at about the same time. The other child was Delia, daughter of Elizabeth Price. I do not know what happened to Elizabeth Price. I have not found a marriage record for her to Thomas M. Forman, but Delia was the socially acknowledged child. It seems he may have raised her. Maybe her mother died or maybe they married for a short time and then she died. At any rate, he married Martha Ogleman in 1814. Martha kept a diary. It is in the series of microfilmed records called Ante-Bellum Southern Plantations from the Revolutionary though the Civil War.Series D, Martha Forman Diaries, 1814-1860, Cecil County, Maryland. In the diary, Martha gushes over Delia's children and calls them their grandchildren, but never let's her diary audience know the relationship to Sarah's children.
(email from Billie Grunden)

Delia married Hon. Joseph Bryan about 1805. Joseph was born about 1775 in of, Georgia; died about 1810. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Name:
(only daughter)

(daughter) married Rev. George Griffin about 1822. George was born about 1810; died after 1840. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]