Patience M. McBride

James married Nancy Taylor on 26 Jan 1813 in Virginia. Nancy was born in 1783 in Botetourt Co, Virginia; died on 5 May 1857 in Greene Co, Illinois. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Patience Lee about 1785 in Patrick Co, Virginia (prob). Patience was born about 1758; died after 1800. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Immigration: 1732, Virginia
• Residence: 1754, Fort Necessity, Pennsylvania
• Other-Begin: 1755, Augusta Co, Virginia
• Military: 1755, Braddocks Defeat, French and Indian War, Pennsylvania
• Residence: 1759, Augusta Co, Virginia
• Military: 1760, Augusta Co, Virginia
• Other-Begin: 26 Mar 1764, Augusta Co, Virginia
• Other-Begin: 17 May 1764, Augusta Co, Virginia
• Immigration: 1772, "Lord Dundee," Co Antrim, Ulster, Ireland ; xx
• Military: 1774, Lord Dunsmore War, Virginia
• Other-Begin: 8 Jun 1775, Botetourt Co, Virginia
• Military: Between 1776 and 1778, Virginia
• Residence: 1779, Henry Co, Virginia
• Residence: 1782, Henry Co, Virginia
• Property: 1785, Patrick Co, Virginia; 250 acres
• Other-Begin: 6 Aug 1793, Patrick Co, Virginia
• Other-Begin: 12 Nov 1793, Patrick Co, Virginia
• Property: 28 Aug 1799, Patrick Co, Virginia; sells 150 acres
• Other-Begin: 1802, Patrick Co, Virginia
• Other-Begin: 27 Jul 1802, Patrick Co, Virginia
• Other-Begin: 10 Feb 1812, White Co, Tennessee
• Research Notes: 19 Mar 2013

Notes:

Extensive study of Glenn Morton found that James never lived in the Carolinas.

email from Glenn 18 Mar 2013:
documented history of the Patrick Co. VA James McBride. I know this is the correct one because 1. his signature is the same on the 1793 wedding bond as it is on the 1802 wedding bond of Joseph McBride and Elizabeth Brammer, who moved to White Co., TN and are attested by Abner Hill to be a brother of Thomas Crawford McBride. There are no Brammers in Guildford NC, but there were lots of them in Patrick Co. at that time. I have searched the records for Brammers in NC.

Note below that at no time did James live in NC or SC. I have an 1840 interview by the son of the William McBride mentioned above who died at Blue Licks which speaks of his Uncle James who was the guy who carved his name in a tree in Kentucky in 1754. That interview lists correctly where James lived in VA. James was a neighbor to John Colyer on Buffalo Creek, which is what the 1840 interview says.



Immigration:
As related by an obit of Morton Lewis McBride, son of James A. McBride, where it states "He cmes of Scotch and English ancestry, his paternal ancestors coming to Virginia in 1732. Of the four brothers that came over at that time three were killed in the French and Indian war."
(clipping supplied by Glenn Morton)

Residence:
At Ft. Necessity, PA 1754 Jun Age: 29

Name found in records of George Washington. 1840 interview with his nephew, William McBride, puts him in that part of the world in 1754-1755 (Glenn Morton)

Other-Begin:
Delinquent Augusta Co. Taxes GRM: He was in the wilderness at this time per the 1840 interview
1755 Age: 30
Augusta Co., Virginia
Chronicles of Scotch-Irish Settlement, Vol. 2. p. 418





Military:
From T. J. McBride History of McBrides 1895

Residence:
1759 21 Sep Age: 34
Augusta Co., Virginia
witness to sale to John Colyer of 44 acres on Colyer's Creek of Beffelow John Davis was also a signatory as Witness.
source: Chronicles of Scotch-Irish Settlement Vol 3, p. 359


Military:
Skipped out on Military Obligation; 1760 Age: 35
Augusta Co., VA
1760 Fled a debt to John Collier (Colyer?) estate signed up for 2nd VA regiment; got 10 pounds security then fled. source Virginia's Colonial Soldiers. p. 198

Other-Begin:
lawsuit: Augusta Co., VA
Joshua Mathews &c vs. James McBride Abates by death of plaintiff Chronicles of Scotch-Irish Immigration, vol. 1, p. 113


Other-Begin:
Samuel Davis vs James McBride, Writ, 17th May 1764. Defendant, a soldier Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish settlement in Virginia Vol. 1, p. 332


Military:
Name on Capt. Buford's Va volunteers Virginia's Colonial Soldiers, p. 153


Other-Begin:
Petition of Cecelia Collier, executrix of the will of John Collier, dec. James McBride enlisted as a soldier in the 2nd Virginia Regiment in 1760 under Col. Byrd and received bounty of 10.0.0 and afterwards deserted.


Military:
With the 5th VA regiment. served as Private promoted to Sergeant. Was at Fort Ticonderoga


Residence:
For first time found on Henry Co. Tax list 1779 Age: 54
Henry Co., VA Precursor to Patrick Co.


Residence:
James is found on the Tax lists and since we know his sons were in Patrick Co, formed from Henry in 1797, this is likely "my" (Glenn Morton) James McBride


Property:
Patrick Co., VA bought 250 acres of land from Patitiah Shelton.

Other-Begin:
Signed Marriage Bond for Maggie McBride and Ezekiel McPeak


Other-Begin:
on a jury, Isom vs Poteet

Property:
sells 150 acres to Samuel Harris

Other-Begin:
signed wedding bond of his brother Joseph McBride and Elizabeth Brammer.


Other-Begin:
Signs Marriage bond for Joseph C. McBride and Elizabeth Brammer 27 Jul 1802 Age: 77
Patrick Co., VA
This is the Joseph who moved to White Co., TN and was brother to Thomas Crawford McBride.


Other-Begin:
Witnessed land sale of 145 acres from his son John McBride to Roland Lee. (Glenn Morton)


Research Notes:
Extensive study of Glenn Morton found that James never lived in the Carolinas as has been recorded elsewhere.

email from Glenn 18 Mar 2013:
documented history of the Patrick Co. VA James McBride. I know this is the correct one because 1. his signature is the same on the 1793 wedding bond as it is on the 1802 wedding bond of Joseph McBride and Elizabeth Brammer, who moved to White Co., TN and are attested by Abner Hill to be a brother of Thomas Crawford McBride. There are no Brammers in Guildford NC, but there were lots of them in Patrick Co. at that time. I have searched the records for Brammers in NC.

Note below that at no time did James live in NC or SC. I have an 1840 interview by the son of the William McBride mentioned above who died at Blue Licks which speaks of his Uncle James who was the guy who carved his name in a tree in Kentucky in 1754. That interview lists correctly where James lived in VA. James was a neighbor to John Colyer on Buffalo Creek, which is what the 1840 interview says.

Died:
From: Glenn
To: lumoto@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 12:49 PM
Subject: James McBride died in White co., TN

I finally found a date for a land sale (I have a partial copy of the sale lacking the date) of 145 acres from John McBride to Roland Lee, witnessed by James McBride Sr. The guy who gave it to me didn't copy the date and told me it was from Virginia in the 1790s. Roland Lee was there in the 1790s along with James and John, his son so that seemed reasonable. But it was wrong.

I just proved that the sale took place in White Co., TN where the McBride brothers and Roland had moved to. The signature suddenly took on significance. It was witnessed by James McBride Snr. meaning, he had a son named James, and that he was alive on Feb 10, 1812 which then means his birth was probably 1726 per Thomas Jefferson McBride's statement that he was 86 when he died.

James 1726 doesn't show up in the White county tax records because old men without land ownership didn't pay taxes back then. The deed is a courthouse copy, handwritten so the signatures are in the script of the copyist.

I know where James Jr was. He appears in 1801 on the Patrick county land records 3 miles from where the other McBrides lived (a short walk back in that day and age. He stayed on the tax list until 1829. I believe I know (can't prove) 3 children and maybe one grandkid.

James married Mary Crawford, (not dau of John) in 1757 in Virginia. Mary was born about 1740 in Lancaster Co, Pennsylvania; died in 1790. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

It is family tradition that James [Alexander} McBride married Mary Crawford who was supposed to be a sister to the mother of President Andrew Jackson. This has not been proven, even though it is recorded in many books.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=patlinton2&id=I1432

note by ss: First, James does not appear as Alexander anywhere.
(per Wikipedia) Andrew Jackson's mother was Elizabeth Hutchinson. She and Andrew's father (Andrew Sr.) emigrated from Ireland 2 yrs before Andrew Jr was born in 1767, bringing with them 2 sons, Hugh b 1763 & Robert b 1764.
A rumor of Jackson having "colored blood", meaning having "Negro" ancestry,[8] was unproven. He referred to a charge that his "Mother ... [was] held to public scorn as a prostitute who intermarried with a Negro, and [that his] ... eldest brother [was] sold as a slave in Carolina.

She was widowed 3 wks before Andrew was born. During Rev War, Jackson and his brother were captured. She secured their release and then volunteered to nurse prisoners of war on board two ships in Charleston harbor where there had been an outbreak of cholera. She died of the disease in Nov 1781 and buried in an unmarked grave. Andrew Jackson was 14.

If Mary Crawford were her sister, why wouldn't her name be Hutchinson?


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His mother, Mary Crawford McBride, was a sister to Andrew Jackson's mother. McBride's Republican grandson and eventually executor of his estate, U. S. Representative John R. McBride, writing in his memoirs, said:

My grandfather and all my relatives were democrats. My grandfather was first cousin of Andrew Jackson, and it seemed to him like family treason to be anything but a Jackson democrat; but they were all anti-slavery in their opinions . . . ."
John R. McBride in Overland to Oregon: Yamhill County, page 73.
For additional documentation on this disputed point, see History of the Pacific Northwest: Oregon and Washington, by Elwood Evans. 2 volumes [ Portland, OR: North Pacific History Co., 1889], 2:445-447).

http://www.usgennet.org/usa/or/county/union1/1889vol2/volumeIIpage431-450.htm
Search on the page for "Crawford"

http://ncbible.org/nwh/ProMcBrideTC.html

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From: Glenn
To: 'lumoto1'
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: Are you still there?
(snip)

Mary Crawford is James McBride's wife mentioned on your page above. As with James, I have found documents that cast doubt on the widely held view that she is the sister of Andrew Jackson's mother. Your question on your web site goes to the heart of this issue: If Mary Crawford were her sister, why wouldn't her name be Hutchinson?

I do beleive I know who she is but I have proven whom she isn't. She isn't the daughter of John Crawford of Lancaster and Mary McConnell. That belief springs from the work of Nellie King Daubenspeck. She missed finding an interview in the Draper manuscripts that disproves any connection between John Crawford and the Waxhaws.

The attached picture is part of the original. Here is the transcript of it. the main point is that John's daughter,Mary Crawford died of Smallpox about 1763

"Ponteack's war was breakingout shortly after the return of Arthur Crawford. He was commissioned a Captain of a ranging company and the people had great expectations from his services but in this they were disappointed for shortly afterwards he caught the small pocks and died together with his sister Mary."

Mary couldn't have married James Crawford. Col. John Crawford of Lancaster had no son named James. His widow after remarriage, had a son named James McKinney.

That family is a dead end. A century of genealogists have been misled by that mistake, including me.

So who is Mary Crawford? I believe she is the sister of James Crawford of Waxhaws, uncle to Andrew Jackson. James Crawford (Crofford--spelled exactly as Thomas Jefferson McBride spelled it in his History of his family), moved from Paxtang PA to the Waxhaws about 1760. He was a wealthy man and I believe the shame of a daughter who ran off with the cobbler caused him to move to South Carolina. Back then, such events could literally destroy a noble family (I have documentation of this). That maintains the truth of the family tradition that they are related to Andrew Jackson, via marriage not blood, but blood was an impossibility anyway. Andrew Jackson's mother was a Hutchinson, not a Crawford.

Notes:

from Glenn Morton:
From my Great Grandfather's manuscript held at the University of Wisconsin

Now sometime about the close of this war, so the story runs, it was the custom of the country then to hire a shoemaker to come to your home and make the shoes for the whole family. There was in that neighborhood a rich old planter by the name of Crofford, who hired James McBride, Sr. to make shoes for the entire family. I never learned how many children there were, but anyway he had a daughter about eighteen years of age at that time, so it turned out that while James was making the shoes for the family he fell in love with the girl and the girl with him, and that by the time the shoemaker was ready for his money she was ready to go with him. Now, the young couple knew it would not do to let the old folks know, because the Croffords were a wealthy family and would not consent to the marriage, so they planned that when he left she would meet him at a certain place that evening. So James took his pony bob and his blankets, his old trusty gun with plenty of ammunition, his stew kettle in which he stowed his grub. This stew kettle he used to cook with, and went to the place appointed. And the young lady true to her promise met him there, so she rode the pony bob and her lover walked by her side to lead and guide the pony, and so they traveled all night to the Southwest. And you must remember that one hundred forty years ago Southwestern Virginia was a wilderness, so that by daylight the next day they were way out in the wilds of Western Virginia. Their departure was taken so slyly that that the Crofford family could find no trace of them, so they continued their journey to the southwest part of Virginia to the Clynch River Country, and there they made their home, and this young lady who was my great-grand-mother on my father's side lived away from her people for there was bad blood between the Croffords and James McBride, Sr. but when the oldest son, William McBride, was sixteen years of age he went back to visit his mother's people and was welcomed by them. Now I want to say that to this woman there were ten sons born. The oldest one was named William. I can not now recollect all of the named but I have heard Father speak of his uncle Joseph, Andrew, John, and so on.

William is my ancestor, but he is not the one of Botetourt Co.

Married:
He was single at Braddock's defeat. This marriage date is supported by Thomas Jefferson McBride's History of McBrides. He says she was 18 when she eloped with him. She was nobility, he was a cobbler/gun smith