Nettie Armstrong

Notes:

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Alton Evening Telegraph 20 Oct 1934

Mrs. N. Herman Succumbs at 59
A heart ailment from which she had been a sufferer for two years resulted in the death at 2:3 0 a. m.,
today of Mrs. Nettie Armstrong Herman, 59. Her death occurred at the family home, 504 William s
street.
The heart ailment had not been cause for alarm until two weeks ago, when she became bedfast , ant
then there was not thought to be any immediate danger.
Mrs. Herman, the widow of William Herman, was born in Newbern but had been a resident of Alto n
since her early youth Her marriage took place here and her children were all born and reare d in
Alton.
Three daughters. Mrs. R. W Mills, Mexico, Mo.. Mrs. Hazel Parker, of Coffeyville, Kans., an d Miss Flora Herman of Alton and three sons, Harry of Coffeyville, Kans., Merlin of Romervill e, Calif., and Ancil of Alton, survive. She also leaves a grandson, Harry Legg. The grandso n had resided with Mrs. Herman since the death of his parents in his infancy, sister, Mrs. Jo hn Gill of Coweta, Okla., and 11 other grandchildren also survive.
Funeral arrangements will not be made pending word from the children who reside at distant pl aces

Alton Evening Telegraph 26 Oct 1934

Burial at Newbern for Mrs. Nettie Herman
The Rev, Otto Horsley. pastor of Main Street Methodist Church, conducted funeral rites Tuesda y afternoon at Bethel Church in Newbern for Mrs Nettle Herman of 510 William street.
Mrs. Herman was born in Newbern vicinity and there was a large gathering of friends from tha t neighborhood at the funeral in addition to those from Alton. Burial was in Newbern cemetery .
Pallbearers were William and Everett Myers, Joseph Zimmerman, Herbert Curvey, Henry Farmer un d
Peter Slover.

Nettie married William Herman about 1897. William was born about 1877; died after 1908. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Inez F. Herman was born in Sep 1895 in Illinois; died before 1920.
2. Harry V. Herman was born on 20 Oct 1896 in Fieldon, Jersey, Illinois; died on 15 Aug 1943 in Tulsa, Oklahoma; was buried on 21 Aug 1943 in Elmwood Cemetery, Coffeyville, Montgomery, Kansas.
3. Hazel A. Herman was born in Dec 1898 in Kansas; died after 1932.
4. Eula Herman was born on 9 May 1901 in Alton, Madison Co, Illinois; died on 14 Jan 1952 in St. Joseph's Hospital, Alton, Madison, Illinois; was buried on 17 Jan 1952 in St. Patrick's Cemetery, Godfrey, Madison, Illinois.
5. Ancil William Herman was born on 22 May 1903 in Alton, Madison Co, Illinois; died in Mar 1974 in Litchfield, Montgomery, Illinois; was buried in Mar 1974.
6. Merlin R. Herman was born on 21 Apr 1906 in Alton, Madison Co, Illinois; died on 27 Oct 1970 in Humbolt, California.
7. Flora L. Herman was born about 1908; died after 1929.

Notes:

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ONLY WANTED TO FRIGHTEN HIS WIFE
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IS NEIGHBORS BELIEF.
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Jeff Armstrong Commit- ted Suicide By Drinking Carbolic Acid and Alcohol.
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J. N. Armstrong, better known as Jeff Armstrong, committed suicide Wednesday night by drink ing four ounces of a mixture of alcho[sic]- hol and carbolic acid which he had prepared for h im by a druggist down town after 9 oclock last night. The mixture was three parts alcohol an d one part carbolic acid. It is said and the surdenness[sic] with which it caused death i s a surprise, considering the well know fact that usually carbolic acid, does not kill when t he person drinking it has been drinking liquor or alchohol[sic] of any kind at the same time.
Mr. Armstrong, who is 69 years old, has been employed at the brick yard for some time and yes terday afternoon, according to his wife, returned home saying he had had trouble with the sup erintendent and that he would go down town and get another job. He did go down town and retur ned to his home at 2607 State Street in an ex- cited or intoxicated condition, Mrs. Armstron g says. Some quarreling followed and he threatened to commit suicide and asked her for the ca rbolic acid bottle. She told him it was empty. He asked George Rain if he had any of the aci d and later said he would go down town and buy some. Mrs. Armstrong followed him to town, hop ing to pre- vent him obtaining the poison but failed to locate him after he left. About 11 o clock last night he returned home and asked her to let him in. She delayed a little in goin g down stairs and he urged her to open the door as it would be the last time he would eve r ask her to do this for him. After he entered the house, he told her good bye, then turne d a bottle containing about one fourth of an ounce of the mixture to his mouth. She at- tempt ed to knock the bottle from his lips but failed and he turned to walk out the front door. H e pitched forward and lay quiet with his head outside the door, the remainder of his body ins ide. Mrs. Armstrong screamed and ran across the street to the residence of Dr. J. E. Watson a nd he responded quickly. He found Mr. Armstrong dead.
Coroner Streeper was notified and will hold an inquest this evening or tomorrow. Mr. Armstron g leaves his wife and two children, Mr. Wm. Herman of Upper Alton and Mrs. John Gill of Oklah oma. The funeral will not be held until Mrs. Gill can get to Alton, and until Mr. Herman an d a grandchild of the de- ceased can arrive from the north. It is thought the funeral will b e held Sunday.
Dr. Watson thinks that Mr. Arm- strong took four ounces of the mixture in four doses and th e the one his wife saw him drinking was the last dose. If that were all he drank of it Dr. Wa tson thinks the result would not be fatal.
It is the opinion of many people that Jeff intended only to frighten his wife and had no in tention of killing himself. And it is urged that is why he had carbolic acid and alchohol[sic ] mixed, relying on the counter influences of these fluids to save him. He was overcome by th e heat about ten days ago while at work and was affected more or less since. He returned to w ork the day after being prostrated, against the advice of his physician and his friends and t he heat again affected him. It is likely that the inquest or an autopsy if one be held, wil l know that some- thing else than carbolic acid caused his deathsomething like heart diseas e super induced by alchohol[sic] or the prostrating effects of the heat- stroke he suffered.
Mr. Armstrong was well known in Jersey, Calhoun and Madison Counties and he had hundreds of f riends to whom the announcement of his tragic death will be a shock. He was honest, industrio us, charitable and great hearted and there is no one who knew him but will regret it.
He has a sister at McCluskey, Jersey County and another one living in Peoria.
Physicians and druggists alike are rather positive in stating that Mr. Armstrongs death coul d not have been caused by the combination drink of carbolic acid and alcohol, and they say h e must have taken some other kind of poison or else the collapse was caused by weak heart act ion or some other cause.
Deceased had the reputation of being the best laborer in this part of the country and employe rs were always willing to pay him twenty-five cents a day more for his labor than they paid o thers. His age and gray tufts were no hindrances to his obtaining employment. Employers sough t his services, and his credit rating was very high for a laborer.
Alton Evening Telegraph 1 Aug 1912

Alton Evening Telegraph 2 Aug 1912
Funeral of J. N. Armstrong.
The funeral of J. N. Armstrong will be held Sunday morning and the body will be taken on a Bl uff Line train to Elsah where interment will be made about 11 oclock.
Coroner Streeper will hold an inquest tonight.
Mrs. John Gill, daughter of deceased, is expected to arrive from Oklahoma tonight or tomorrow . Wm. Herman, son-in-law of deceased, will be here from Calhoun County tonight, as will othe r relatives and friends from that county.

Alton Evening Telegraph 5 Aug 1912 page 2
Mrs. Gill Is Here
Mrs. John Gill and daughter, Emily arrived yesterday afternoon from Oklahoma and the funera l of Mrs. Gill's father, .J. N. Armstrong will be held tomorrow morning. The body will be tak en to Elsah on 9 o'clock train and services will be conducted in the Elsah Methodist church . Burial will be in the Elsah cemetery where the son, Albert, is buried.

Alton Evening Telegraph 7 Aug 1912 page 2
Many Attended Armstrong Funeral
Parties who accompanied the body of J. N. Armstrong yesterday to Elsah stated upon their retu rn that a very large number of residents of Jersey and Calhoun Counties awaited the arrival o f the funeral party at Elsah. Many farmers and their families drove to town to attend the fun eral and they brought lunches with them, not knowing just when the Alton party would get to t he church. Mr. Armstrong lived many years in Elsah and was well known in all parts of Jerse y and Calhoun counties.

Alton Telegraph 8 Aug 1912 page 7
DAUGHTER FOUND
TELEPHONE SUCCEEDSTELEGRAPH FAILS
Efforts to Locate Mrs. John Gill, Daughter of J.N. Armstrong, By Telegraph Failed.
Because she had sent two telegraphic messages to Oklahoma, advising her daughter, Mrs. John G ill of the tragic death of her father, J.N. Armstrong without receiving a reply, Mrs. Armstro ng Saturday decided to try and get connection with the Gill home about thirty miles from Musk ogee, Okla., over a telephone. Dr. J.E. Watson made the trial for her over his Bell Telephon e and soon succeeded in getting John Gill himself on the phone at the other end. They had rec eived neither of the two telegraphic messages sent from here and did not know of Mr. Armstron gs death until Dr. Watson told him that morning. Mr. Gill urged that the funeral be delaye d until he and his wife can get here and he said they would start.
Will Herman and other relatives of deceased from Calhoun County have arrived for the funeral.

Jeffrey married Nancy Emma Snider about 1876. Nancy (daughter of James Allen Snider and Rebecca Hill) was born in 1856 in Jersey, Jersey Co, Illinois; died on 22 Dec 1923 in Hardin, Calhoun Co, Illinois; was buried on 24 Dec 1923 in Hardin Cem, Hardin, Calhoun Co, Illinois. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: Abt 1812, Hardin Co, Illinois
• Birth: 1860, Illinois; per 1860 census
• Census: 3 May 1860, Jersey, Jersey Co, Illinois
• Residence: Bef 1912, Alton, Madison Co, Illinois

Notes:

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Alton Evening Telegraph 20 Dec 1923

Former Resident Seriously Sick
Relatives have received messages telling of the serious sickness of Mrs. Emma Armstrong, widow of the late "Jeff" Armstrong at her home in Hardin, where she has lived since shortly after her husband's death. The Armstrongs lived here for very many years and are well known. A daughter, Mrs. Nettie Herman has gone to Hardin and other relatives grandchildren will go at once. Another daughter Mrs. Gill-who lives in Coweta, Oklahoma is on her way to Hardin now.

Alton Evening Telegraph 28 Dec 1923
Death of Mrs. J. N. Armstrong
Mrs. Emma Armstrong, widow of J.N. Armstrong, formerly a well known resident of the North Side, died last Saturday at Hardin, Ill., where she had been making her home, and the funeral services were held Monday afternoon from the home of Frank Oettle, where she had lived. She was in her 68th year.
A Hardin newspaper says this of Mrs. Armstrong: "Much of her life was spent in Alton, until nine years ago, when she took up her residence at the home of Frederick Oetlle near Hardin, and later in Hardin. She assisted him in caring for his two motherless children. Her untiring efforts in behalf of Mr. Oettle's two little ones were repaid by his and their kindness to her, and during her last illness Mr. Oettle left nothing undone to alleviate her sufferings and make her as comfortable as possible. Her daughters were notified of her illness and arrived in time to be with their mother the last few days.
"Funeral services worn conducted at tho Oettle home Monday afternoon at 3 o'clock, by Rev. J . J. Bostick, after which tho remains were laid to rest. Six of her nephews, James Snider, Allen Snider, John Snider, Henry Smith, Charles Smith and Samuel Geske, were her pallbearers.

(Mr. Frederick Oettle relative to her sister-in-law Rachel Annie Oettle, wife of her bro James Henry
(James and John s/o her bro William Warren
(Allen s/o her bro John Abraham
(Henry & Charles Smith s/o her sister Mary E. & Charles Smith
(Samuel Geske s/o her sister Adah Rose & August Geske

"She leaves to mourn her departure, two daughters, Mrs. Nettie Herman of Alton, and Mrs. John Gill of Coweta, Okla.; two sisters, Mrs. Mary Smith of Hardin and Mrs. August Geske of west of Hardin; three brothers, John, William and Henry Snider, of Hardin; nine grandchildren and a number of other relatives, and many friends.

Alton Evening Telegraph 28 Dec 1923
Death of Mrs. Emma Armstrong
Mrs. Emma Armstrong, for many years a resident of North Alton, passed away at her home in Hardin a few days ago, and the funeral and burial occurred in that city. She was the widow of "Jeff " Armstrong and left here soon after the death of her husband some years ago.
Her daughter, Mrs. M. Herman and the latter's children returned yesterday from attending the funeral.
Russell Mills who married one of the Herman girls also attended the obsequies. Deceased was about 70 years of age.


Census:
1860 Jersey, Jersey Co, Illinois - Elsah post office
residence 149
Snyder Abram 61 1799 Tennessee
Snyder Elizabeth (Craig) 62 1798 South Carolina
Snyder John 15 1845 Tennessee
Snyder George 14 1846 Tennessee
Snyder Joseph 8 1852 Illinois
Snyder Abner 3 1857 Illinois
Snyder Hannah 20 1840 Illinois
Snyder Catharine 10 1850 Tennessee

residence 151
-Snyder James 22 1838 Tennessee
Snyder Rebecca (Hill) 23 1837 Illinois
-Snyder Emma 4/12 1860 Illinois

residence 152
Piggott Joseph 22 1838 Illinois
Piggott Mary 17 1843 Illinois

residence 155
Piggott, John 20 1840 IL
Piggott, Margaret 18 1842 IL

residence 174
Absalom Worthy 41 Georgia
Sarah Worthy (Craig) 38 Tennessee
Mary Worthy 18 Illinois
Wm H Worthy 15
John W Worthy 14
Sarah A Worthy 11
Susan Worthy 8
Matilda Worthy 7
Elizabeth Worthy 4
Jasper W Worthy 2
Adam W Worthy 7/12
Absalom Worthy 6 Illinois

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1840, Smith Co, Tennessee
• Census: 5 Sep 1850, Twp 7, Range 11, Jersey Co, Illinois
• Census: 3 May 1860, Jersey, Jersey Co, Illinois
• Military: Between 1862 and Jun 1865, Civil War, Co K, 97th Illinois
• Census: 26 Jul 1870, Twp 6, Range 11, Jersey Co, Illinois; b TN
• Other-Begin: 26 Oct 1950, Columbus, Mississippi; headstone application

Notes:

[A Snider-from Julie Goheen.FTW]

Place of birth is uncertain due to two factors...

On the censuses he lists his place of birth as Tennessee. In his Illinois Civil War Detail Report, his nativity is Mount Vernon, Jefferson, Illinois.

James A. Snyder had the rank of PVT. He was in Company K, Unit 97 IL US INF.

His place of residence was Newburn, Jersey, Illinois. He was 5'10" with light hair, blue eyes, light complexion. He was married when he registered. His nativity was Mt. Vernon, Jefferson, Illinois.

He joined in 22 Aug 1862 in Newbern. He was joined by JJ Briggs. He mustered in 8 Sep 1862 in Camp Butler, Illinois. He mustered out on 29 Jul 1865 in Galveston, TX. He was mustered out by LT Lull.

At this time I am still trying to find the marriage for James and Rebecca. They are not listed in the Illinois Statewide Marriage Index. I am currently looking in Missouri.

Census:
1840
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1 aft 1835 James (1836)
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 1 (son) 1826-1830)
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1 (1801-1810) Abraham 1803
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 2 Nancy 1836; Hannah 0
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1 Susan (1832)
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1 (1811-1820) Eliz 1811
Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59: 1 (1781-1790) mother of one of them
Total - All Persons (Free White, Free Colored, Slaves): 8
Persons Employed in Agriculture: 2
Free White Persons - Under 20: 5
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 8
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 8


Census:
Abraham Snyder 35 1815 farmer Tennessee
Elizabeth Snyder 30 1820 North Carolina
Susanah Snyder 16 1834 Tennessee 183
Nancy Snyder 14 1836 Tennessee
James Snyder 12 1838 Tennessee
Hannah Snyder 9 1841 Tennessee
John Snyder 7 1843 Tennessee
George Snyder 2 1848 Illinois
Catharine Snyder 0 Illinois
Newton Sivcin 21 1829 laborer Tennessee

Census:
1860 Jersey, Jersey Co, Illinois - Elsah post office
residence 149
Snyder Abram 61 1799 Tennessee
Snyder Elizabeth (Craig) 62 1798 South Carolina
Snyder John 15 1845 Tennessee
Snyder George 14 1846 Tennessee
Snyder Joseph 8 1852 Illinois
Snyder Abner 3 1857 Illinois
Snyder Hannah 20 1840 Illinois
Snyder Catharine 10 1850 Tennessee

residence 151
-Snyder James 22 1838 Tennessee
Snyder Rebecca (Hill) 23 1837 Illinois
-Snyder Emma 4/12 1860 Illinois

residence 152
Piggott Joseph 22 1838 Illinois
Piggott Mary 17 1843 Illinois

residence 155
Piggott, John 20 1840 IL
Piggott, Margaret 18 1842 IL

residence 174
Absalom Worthy 41 Georgia
Sarah Worthy (Craig) 38 Tennessee
Mary Worthy 18 Illinois
Wm H Worthy 15
John W Worthy 14
Sarah A Worthy 11
Susan Worthy 8
Matilda Worthy 7
Elizabeth Worthy 4
Jasper W Worthy 2
Adam W Worthy 7/12
Absalom Worthy 6 Illinois


Military:
per headstone application
enlistment date: 8-22-1862
discharge date: 7-29-1865
Illinois, Private
97th Infantry

Census:
Snider James 33 1837 TN
Rebecca 32 1838 IL
Nancy E 13 1857 IL
John A. 7 1863 IL
William W. 1864 IL
Mary E. 1866 IL
Julia A. 8/12 1869 IL



Other-Begin:
Snider, James A.
date birth 5-14-1836
date death 6-14-1917
enlistment date: 8-22-1862
discharge date: 7-29-1865
Illinois, Private
97th Infantry
emblem: Christian
name cemetery Hardin, Hardin, Illinois
nearest freight station: Jerseyville, Illinois
PO address of consignee: Hardin, Illinois
ship to George H. Snider (nephew)
ordered Colubus Mississippi 26 Oct 1950
Applicant Signature Sharon A. Smith, 9/19/1950 Hardin, Illinois

Died:
Death Record:
James Allen Snider
death date 14 Jun 1917
date place Hardin, Calhoun, Illinois
male age 81
birth year 1836
birth date 14 May 1836
birth place Tennessee
Father Abraham Snider
Father's birthplace Penn
burial date 15 Jun 1917

James married Rebecca Hill about 1855. Rebecca was born about 1836 in Jersey, Illinois; died on 11 Jan 1914 in Hardin, Calhoun Co, Illinois; was buried in Hardin Cem, Hardin, Calhoun Co, Illinois. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 3 May 1860, Jersey, Jersey Co, Illinois

Notes:

[A Snider-from Julie Goheen.FTW]

Alton Evening Telegraph 13 Jan 1914

Death of Mrs. James Snider.
Last Saturday Mrs. Emma Armstrong of 2007 Btato street was called to Hardin by a telephone me ssage
that told of tho serious sickness of her mother, Mrs. James Snider, a long time resident of C alhoun County.
Mrs. Armstrong reached Hardin in time to see her mother alive, Information reaching here toda y that the
mother passed away Sunday. She was about 76 years ot age, and had spent all of those years i n Calhoun
and Jersey counties. She is survived by her husband, three daughters and three sons, all resi dents of Calhoun County except Mrs. Armstrong.
Many Alton residents knew deceased for many yours and epoak of her as a very kindly woman, an d a good wife, mother and neighbor. She had been afflicted with blindness for several years.

Census:
Residence 149
Abram Snyder 61 1799 Tennessee
Elizabeth Snyder 62 1798 South Carolina
John Snyder 15 1845 Tennessee
George Snyder 14 1846 Tennessee
Joseph Snyder 8 1852 Illinois
Abner Snyder 3 1857 Illinois
Hannah Snyder 20 1840 Illinois
Catharine Snyder 10 Tennessee

residence 151
Snyder James 22 abt 1838 Tennessee
Snyder Rebecca 23 abt 1837 Illinois
Snyder Emma 4/12 abt 1860 Illinois

Residence 152
Piggott Joseph 22 abt 1838 Male Illinois
Piggott Mary 17 abt 1843 Female

residence 155
Piggott John 20 abt 1840 Male Illinois
Piggott Margaret 18 abt 1842 Female Illinois

Other Events and Attributes:

• Birth: Pennsylvania; per dau Nancy 1880 census
• Birth: 1799, Tennessee; per 1860 census
• Birth: Between 1801 and 1810; per 1840 census
• Birth: 1801, Tennessee; per 1880 census
• Birth: 15 Jun 1803; 1803 per tombstone
• Residence: 1812, Greene Co, Tennessee; this Abraham?
• Birth: 1815, Tennessee; per 1850 census
• Census: 1840, Smith Co, Tennessee
• Census: 05 Sep 1850, Twp 7, Range 11, Jersey Co, Illinois
• Census: 3 May 1860, Jersey, Jersey Co, Illinois
• Census: 28 Jul 1870, Twp 6, Range 11, Jersey Co, Illinois
• Census: 7 Jun 1880, Jersey Co (District 95), Illinois
• Research Notes: 26 Nov 2014

Notes:

census record shows his parents both born in PA.

[A Snider-from Julie Goheen.FTW]
The first census I find Abraham and Elizabeth are in the 1840. They are living in Smith County, Illinois. I have found an Abraham in the 1830 census but not for sure... There is one Abraham in Greene County, TN but I have no proof that this is our Abraham.

In the 1850 census Abraham and family are living in Twp 7, Range 11 in Jersey County, Illinois.
Abraham Snyder, 35, M, farmer, born TN
Elizabeth, 30, F, born NC
Susanah, 16, F, born TN
Nancy, 14, F, born TN
James, 12, M, born TN
Hannah, 9, F, born in TN
John, 7, M, TN
George, 2, M, IL
Catherine, 6/12, F, TN

In the 1860 census, Abraham are living in Jersey Landing Precinct in Jersey County.
Abram Snyder, 61, M, farmer, born TN**
Elizabeth, 62, F, born SC**
Hannah, 20, F, born in IL
John, 15, M, TN
George, 14, M, TN
Catherine, 10, F, TN
Joseph, 8, M, IL
Abner, 3, M, born IL

Lots of discrepancies between 1850 and 1860 census... First, look at Abe and Elizabeth's age. .. they jumped about 30 years in ten years. Second, Hannah is born in IL in the 1860 census and TN in the 1850 census... They were in Smith, TN in 1840 so not sure... Her death certificate says Smith, TN as birthplace. Third, George should be 12 based on the 1850 census, John should be 17 according to the 1850 census. Also the birthplace of Elizabeth went from NC in 1850 to SC in 1860.

In the 1870 census, Abraham and Elizabeth are in Twp 6, Range 11 in Jersey County.
Snider, Abraham, 69, b. TN
Snider, Elizabeth, 55, b. TN
Snider, Absalom A, 13, b. IL (this is Abner)
Snider, George W, age 22, b. IL

Yet again some discrepancies...

1880 census finds the Snider family in the Illinois Twp of Jersey County.
Abriham, 80, b.IL Father and mother listed as born in PA
Elizabeth, 71, b. b. NC
A. Pollis, 24, b. IL -- this is Abner but not sure where Pollis comes in at

I am still looking for the marriage of Abraham and Elizabeth. I am pretty sure it happened in TN, but have no proof or date as of yet.


Residence:
There's an Abraham and William Snider on 1812 Tax List in Greene County. Also a Samuel Craig

perhaps this Abraham a child of one of the Taxpayers Abraham or William.

Census:
1840 Smith County, TN
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1 aft 1835 James (1836)
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 1 (son) 1826-1830)
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1 (1801-1810) Abraham 1803
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 2 Nancy 1836; Hannah 0
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1 Susan (1832)
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1 (1811-1820) Eliz 1811
Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59: 1 (1781-1790) mother of one of them
Total - All Persons (Free White, Free Colored, Slaves): 8
Persons Employed in Agriculture: 2
Free White Persons - Under 20: 5
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 8
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 8


Census:
Abraham Snyder 35 1815 farmer Tennessee
Elizabeth Snyder 30 1820 North Carolina
Susanah Snyder 16 1834 Tennessee 183
Nancy Snyder 14 1836 Tennessee
James Snyder 12 1838 Tennessee
Hannah Snyder 9 1841 Tennessee
John Snyder 7 1843 Tennessee
George Snyder 2 1848 Illinois
Catharine Snyder 0 Illinois
Newton Sivcin 21 1829 laborer Tennessee


Census:
1860 Jersey, Jersey Co, Illinois - Elsah post office
residence 149
Snyder Abram 61 1799 Tennessee
Snyder Elizabeth (Craig) 62 1798 South Carolina
Snyder John 15 1845 Tennessee
Snyder George 14 1846 Tennessee
Snyder Joseph 8 1852 Illinois
Snyder Abner 3 1857 Illinois
Snyder Hannah 20 1840 Illinois
Snyder Catharine 10 1850 Tennessee

residence 151
-Snyder James 22 1838 Tennessee
Snyder Rebecca (Hill) 23 1837 Illinois
-Snyder Emma 4/12 1860 Illinois

residence 152
Piggott Joseph 22 1838 Illinois
Piggott Mary 17 1843 Illinois

residence 155
Piggott, John 20 1840 IL
Piggott, Margaret 18 1842 IL

residence 174
Absalom Worthy 41 Georgia
Sarah Worthy (Craig) 38 Tennessee
Mary Worthy 18 Illinois
Wm H Worthy 15
John W Worthy 14
Sarah A Worthy 11
Susan Worthy 8
Matilda Worthy 7
Elizabeth Worthy 4
Jasper W Worthy 2
Adam W Worthy 7/12
Absalom Worthy 6 Illinois


Census:
175 Piggott, James A. 54 farmer MO
Susan J. (Snider) 35 TN
Charles N. 16 farm hand IL
Henry H. 9 IL
Dorah A. 7 IL
Luther A. 2 IL
Jesse E. 1 m IL

176 Buckley James S. 22 farmer IL (married in Feb)
Minerva E. (Piggott) 17 IL
McKay, Jessee 56 farm hand TN
Bouruff Mary A. 26 servant IL

177 Snider Abraham 69 farmer 200 TN
Elizabeth 55 TN
Absalom A. 13 IL
George W 22 farm hand IL

Census:
Abriham Snider 80 Farmer 1800 TN PA PA
Elisabth Snider 71 1809 NC NC NC
A Pollis Snider 24 1856 son IL TN NC



Research Notes:
Questioning if Abraham in Mercer County is father of this Abraham. This Abraham says he was born in Tennessee and parents born in Pennsylvania. Abraham who lived in Wolf Creek seems to have died in Pennsylvania, never making it south to Tennessee.
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1830 Greene Co, TN (this is Abraham Snider who married Catherine Shrum, and had a son William. Not likely this Abraham.

query for Abraham Snider in 1830 Tennessee census records finds Abraham and David next to each other.
Abraham is total of 7 and David total of 2.

Abraham:
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1 (1821-1825) - maybe son not named abt 1830?

Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19: 1 (1811-1815)
- maybe a brother
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29: 1 (1701-1810) Abraham ?
Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59: 1 Abraham's father?
(1771-1780) - Jacob?
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 2
Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59: 1
Free White Persons - Under 20: 2
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 3
Total Free White Persons: 7
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 7

There's an Abraham and William Snider on 1812 Tax List in Greene County. Also a Samuel Craig

Smith county is 207 miles west of Greene Co, reasonable path of migration.
Jersey county is 800 miles NW from Smith county.


1820 census shows a Jacob in Jackson County;
a couple 26-44 (1776-1794) and one 1 male over 45 (bef 1775).
Jacob could be either, prob younger, elder is one Abraham who is taxpayer in 1812.
also 2 males under 10 (1810-1820), 1 f 10-15

Abraham could possibly be a male under 10 since he gave a wide range of ages in his census records.


William Snider in 1797 Sullivan Co, TN tax list and 1812 Greene - Sullivan just east of Greene.
also Michael and Barney in Sullivan.

Jonas and Peter in Stewart Co.

Stewart county is between Smith & Jersey IL

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a John Warren, pension of North Carolina military, pension roll 4 Mar 1831, Smith Co, TN - birth year abt 1762.

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update 11/29/2014
found a family of Sniders in Greene Co TN that seemed suspicious and traced them - turned out they were from VA instead of PA.; so probably not; but going to leave them in the file after all that work. They'll probably connect to somebody eventually.

Then I found where one of John Warren's granddaughter's married a Snider (Snyder) - Eva Snider m Arthur P. Snyder who was born in PA. Families stick close for generations, even centuries; so figured he could be a cousin of sorts - tracked his family; but didn't see a connection.

In tracking his family I saw that his sister Mildred Parma Snyder also married a Snyder - Dudley Clarence - also from PA. So, I ran his line, too. Still zilch.

Not seeing a connection yet between all these, I tracked the Kline family - Germans who migrated thru PA - Jacob Kline m Nancy Elizabeth Snider, dau of Abraham & Eliz Craig. Only thing that I cocked my head at after doing that is saw that an Alfred Skinner was in the household of one of them as a servant in Christian Co in 1900. I can't figure out who he was; but makes me think these families were connected in PA.

Abraham* married Elizabeth* Craig, (dau?) about 1829. Elizabeth* (daughter of James* Craig and Susanna Abigail* Burchett) was born on 1 May 1811 in North Carolina; died on 15 Jun 1885 in Newbern, Jersey Co, Illinois; was buried in Newbern Cem, Mississippi Twp, Jersey Co, Illinois. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1840, Smith Co, Tennessee
• Census: 5 Sep 1850, Twp 7, Range 11, Jersey Co, Illinois
• Census: 3 May 1860, Jersey, Jersey Co, Illinois
• Census: 28 Jul 1870, Twp 6, Range 11, Jersey Co, Illinois
• Census: 7 Jun 1880, Jersey Co (District 95), Illinois

Notes:

There was a James Craig in 1840 Smith Tennessee
age range: 1791-1800; wife 1780-1791
listed on pg 77; Abraham Snider listed on pg 97 - not nearby neighbors

Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1 1831-1835
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29: 1 1811-1820
Free White Persons - Males - 40 thru 49: 1 1791-1800
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1 1831-1835
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: 2 1826-1830
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 2 1815-1821
Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59: 1 1781-1790
Total - All Persons (Free White, Free Colored, Slaves): 9
Persons Employed in Agriculture: 2
Free White Persons - Under 20: 6
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 9
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 9


another spelling: Cregg


not sure of this portion of the line from Elizabeth Craig.
Have seen that she is daughter of James and Susannah Burchett, and James is son of John Craig and Hannah Davis. However, the tree shows John as son of John 1732-1805 and Mary Molly Cox. No references.
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/34727753/family/pedigree


Birth:
daughter Nancy Kline 1880 census states mother b Tennessee
daughter Hannah Piggott 1910 states mother b North Carolina
Elizabeth herself gives her birth place as North Carolina, South Carolina, and Tennessee.


Census:
1840
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1 aft 1835 James (1836)
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 1 (son) 1826-1830)
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1 (1801-1810) Abraham 1803
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 2 Nancy 1836; Hannah 0
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1 Susan (1832)
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1 (1811-1820) Eliz 1811
Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59: 1 (1781-1790) mother of one of them
Total - All Persons (Free White, Free Colored, Slaves): 8
Persons Employed in Agriculture: 2
Free White Persons - Under 20: 5
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 8
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 8


Census:
Abraham Snyder 35 1815 farmer Tennessee
Elizabeth Snyder 30 1820 North Carolina
Susanah Snyder 16 1834 Tennessee 183
Nancy Snyder 14 1836 Tennessee
James Snyder 12 1838 Tennessee
Hannah Snyder 9 1841 Tennessee
John Snyder 7 1843 Tennessee
George Snyder 2 1848 Illinois
Catharine Snyder 0 Illinois
Newton Sivcin 21 1829 laborer Tennessee

Census:
1860 Jersey, Jersey Co, Illinois - Elsah post office
residence 149
Snyder Abram 61 1799 Tennessee
Snyder Elizabeth (Craig) 62 1798 South Carolina
Snyder John 15 1845 Tennessee
Snyder George 14 1846 Tennessee
Snyder Joseph 8 1852 Illinois
Snyder Abner 3 1857 Illinois
Snyder Hannah 20 1840 Illinois
Snyder Catharine 10 1850 Tennessee

residence 151
-Snyder James 22 1838 Tennessee
Snyder Rebecca (Hill) 23 1837 Illinois
-Snyder Emma 4/12 1860 Illinois

residence 152
Piggott Joseph 22 1838 Illinois
Piggott Mary 17 1843 Illinois

residence 155
Piggott, John 20 1840 IL
Piggott, Margaret 18 1842 IL

residence 174
Absalom Worthy 41 Georgia
Sarah Worthy (Craig) 38 Tennessee
Mary Worthy 18 Illinois
Wm H Worthy 15
John W Worthy 14
Sarah A Worthy 11
Susan Worthy 8
Matilda Worthy 7
Elizabeth Worthy 4
Jasper W Worthy 2
Adam W Worthy 7/12
Absalom Worthy 6 Illinois



Census:
175 Piggott, James A. 54 farmer MO
Susan J. (Snider) 35 TN
Charles N. 16 farm hand IL
Henry H. 9 IL
Dorah A. 7 IL
Luther A. 2 IL
Jesse E. 1 m IL

176 Buckley James S. 22 farmer IL (married in Feb)
Minerva E. (Piggott) 17 IL
McKay, Jessee 56 farm hand TN
Bouruff Mary A. 26 servant IL

177 Snider Abraham 69 farmer 200 TN
Elizabeth 55 TN
Absalom A. 13 IL
George W 22 farm hand IL

Census:
Abriham Snider 80 Farmer 1800 TN PA PA
Elisabth Snider 71 1809 NC NC NC
A Pollis Snider 24 1856 son IL TN NC