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Mary* Holmes, (immigrant)

Female 1639 - Aft 1690  (> 52 years)


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  1. 1.  Mary* Holmes, (immigrant) was born in 1639 in Lancashire, Leicestershire, England (daughter of Rev. Obadiah* Holmes, Sr (immigrant) and Katherine* Hyde); died after 1690 in Providence Co, Rhode Island.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Emigration: Aft 1639, Didsbury, England
    • Immigration: Aft 1639, Rhode Island

    Mary* married John* Brown, (immigrant) in 1654 in Providence Co, Rhode Island. John* (son of co-founder Providence, RI Chaddus** Brown, (immigrant) and Elizabeth* Sharparowe, (immigrant)) was born about 1635 in England; died about 1706 in Providence Co, Rhode Island. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Sarah* Brown was born about 1657 in Providence Co, Rhode Island; died about 1733 in Rhode Island.
    2. Obadiah Brown was born about 1660 in Providence Co, Rhode Island; died after 1661.
    3. John Brown was born on 18 Mar 1662 in Providence Co, Rhode Island; died on 19 Sep 1719 in Providence Co, Rhode Island.
    4. Martha Brown was born after 1663 in Providence Co, Rhode Island; died after 1686.
    5. Baptist Minister James Brown was born in 1666 in Providence Co, Rhode Island; died before 1692 in Newport Co, Rhode Island.
    6. Mary Brown was born after 1667 in Providence Co, Rhode Island; died about 1725.
    7. Deborah Brown was born after 1668 in Providence Co, Rhode Island; died after 1669.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Rev. Obadiah* Holmes, Sr (immigrant)Rev. Obadiah* Holmes, Sr (immigrant) was born on 18 Mar 1606 in Didsbury, England (son of Robert* (Hulme) Holmes, Jr and Katherine* Johnson); died on 15 Oct 1682 in Newport, Rhode Island (will).

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Residence: 1638, Salem Village, Massachusetts
    • Emigration: Bef 1640, Didsbury, England
    • Immigration: Bef 1640, Rhode Island
    • Other-Begin: 5 Sep 1651, Salem Village, Massachusetts
    • Religion: 1668, Baptist church, Middletown, Monmouth Co, New Jersey

    Notes:

    He was one of the first setters of Rhode lsland and a follower of Roger Williams. His daughter Mary married John Brown. (Broderbund CD History of RI - only mention)

    PRESTON LANCASTER CO., ENGLAND
    NEW PORT, R.I.
    1639 Lived in Salem, MA
    1639 (Oct. 11) Salem, MA He had two acres granted to him. Being one of the "Glassmen" as the manufacturers of glass were called.
    1640-(May 30)=Baptized Martha.
    1642-(May 20)=Baptized Samuel.
    1644-(June 9) =Baptized Obediah 2nd.
    1641-The glassmen manufactured common glass for windows and pieces are still found in the area.
    1644=He drew Lot 39 in the division of wood land at Rehoram.
    1645=His name was on the list of those who had forfeited lots at Rehoram for failure to fence land and move their families onto it.
    1646=He moved his family to Rehorem and became a member of Rev. Newman's church.
    1649=He entered complaints against Samuel Newman for slander, with damages of 100 lbs.
    1650=He was presented with others of Rehorem by Grand jury for continuing of meeting, upon the Lord's Day from house to house contrary to order of the court and excummunicated from church with John Clark and John Carandall.
    1650=Newport. He and eight others of Rehorem, having separated from the church, were baptized , and Mr. Holmes became pastor. He and some others subsequently left Rehorem and came to Newport.

    1651- (July 21)= He with his neighbors, John Clarke and John Crandal of Newport were seized at Lynn, Mass. They being of the representatives of the Newport church, upon the request of William Witten of Lynn became of his advanced age. While Mr. Clarke was preaching the constable came to Mr. Witten's house and apprehended him as well as Mr. John Clarke and John Crandall. The next morning they were sent to prison. Mr. Obediah Holmes denied the lawful baptizing of infants. The principle that had been an issue in England hopelessly lost---that principle of religious freedom: The right of every man, women and child to worship God according to the dictators of his own conscience . Obediah Holmes denied the civil power any right to separate him from the divine higher power. All attempts to induce him to recant failed. Sept. 5,1651 he was taken from prison, stripped naked to the waist--he refused to aid by touching even a button of his clothing and was tied to a post and publicly whipped. Before the whipping they waited awhile for Gov. Indicott who never came. There were thirty strokes with a three cord whip--ninety strokes in all--laid on by a robust executioner, not by one hand, but by two hands. The blows were laid on slowly and with all his strength and pausing after each to gain strength for the next as if to say that the criminal must be punished as deserved. Slowly so as to make him show his suffering under punishment. The white strips turned to red, to black and blue welts, then broke open and drenched his clothing to his shoes. With each lash the executioner seemed determined to bring a moan and an out cry from the criminal but no out cry came. As the man had began to lay the strokes on his back Mr. Holmes had said to the people ,"Though my flesh should fail and my shirt fail, yet my God will not fail." and he prayed unto the Lord not to lay his sin to their charge. The first sound came after he was loosed from the post and we Quote his own account. "Having joyfullness in my heart and cheerfulness in my countenance, for they said that my face shone, I told the magistrate, you have struck me as with roses and moreover God has made it easy for me, yet I pray that it not be laid to your charge." To his dying day be testified that he did not suffer pain although afterwards for weeks he rested and slept on his knees and elbows. He was advised to make his escape by night and depart-" and the next day, while I was on my journary, the constable came to search the house where I had lodged so I escaped their hands and was by the good hand of my heavenly Father brought home to my relatives, wife and eight children. The brothern of our town met me four miles in the woods where we rejoiced together in the Lord."
    1675= Holmes wrote an account of his life for his children which is in the Newberry Genealogical Library in Chicago, ILL.
    1682=He died Oct. 15, 1682 and buried in his own fields where a tomb was erected to his memory in what is now Middletown, N,J. His wife did not long survive him. He had part in the settling of New Jersey in 1644 and by 1790 had an estimate of 5000 decendents among them many Doctors, Lawyers,
    and Ministers.
    ________

    Obadiah Holmes was born in Northern England around the year 1607. His birthplace lay in the rural area of Reddish, five miles southeast of the center of Manchester. He was the second son of Robert Holmes and Catherine Johnson Holmes (the family name was at the time more commonly spelled Hulmes or Hullme.) Baptized in Didsbury Chapel on March 18, 1610, he grew up in a farm family of eight or nine children. Since Obadiah later became a glassmaker and a weaver, it may well be that "bookish" interest was minimal in his early years. He relates that he had been neglectful and strayed from his religious duties and responsibilities for a period of five years. If this was the case, he certainly atoned for it later in his life. His mother's illness and death proved a turning point. "It struck me that my disobedient acts caused her death, which forced me to confess the same to her - my evil ways." Two months after his mother's death, he took Catherine Hyde as his wife. They were married in Manchester's Collegiate College Church on 20 Nov 1630.

    The decade of the 1630's so disheartened England's Puritans that they left their homeland in shipload after shipload to create a newer and purer England far away. These were the years of the Great Migration and Obadiah Holmes also "adventured the danger of the seas to come to New England." Holmes and his wife probably sailed from Preston (just north of Liverpool), down the River Ribble, across the Irish Sea, and into the open Atlantic. They had an extremely stormy voyage that prevented them from entering Boston harbor until six weeks had passed. Soon after landing at Boston in the summer or early fall of 1638, they made their way up the coast and settled at Salem, Massachusetts.

    By January, 1639, they were in Salem; on the twenty-first of that month Holmes received one acre of land for a house and a promise of ten more acres "to be laid out by the town." The young Salem settlement encouraged Holmes and his co-workers in the development of what may have been the first glass factory in North America. They made the common window glass. Holmes performed other duties befitting a good citizen and often served on juries during his years of residence at Salem.

    In March 1640, Obadiah and Catherine became members of the Salem church. Obadiah soon found himself disliking the rigidity of the established church. Nor was it his inclination to keep silent in the midst of religious discussions. He soon decided the church and civil laws could not be tolerated any longer. Obadiah's decision to move was probably more influenced by the fact that the church and civil authorities would not tolerate him. Before Oct of 1643, Obadiah had taken an option in the newly created community of Rehoboth 40 miles south of Boston. He sold his holdings in Salem by 1645, removing himself and his family to Rehoboth the same year. There he was elevated to the status of freeman in 1648. Both Obadiah and Catherine participated in this church's public worship, presided over by Samuel Newman. Obadiah soon found that he had not removed beyond religious and other controversies when making his second settlement in the new country. It took three years for the membership of the Rehoboth church to become divided on doctrinal and legal lines and become aligned behind the minister and Obadiah as the respective leaders. Obadiah's conversion to the distinctive views of the Baptists was developed here. Baptized with the "new baptism" along with 8 others, Obadiah took the irrevocable step toward separation from New England's official way and he became the leader of the Schismatists.

    The climax must have come to a head in 1649 for that is the year on October 29 that Obadiah entered suit for slander against Samuel Newman, the minister. The slanderous suit stated that Obadiah had committed perjury in some court proceeding. On the 2nd day of Oct 1650, he, with others of Rehoboth, were indicted by the Grand Jury at New Plymouth for holding meetings on the Lord's day from house to house, "contrary to the order of the court". The burden of the petition was that the dissident group (Holmes and 8 others) had set up a separate and irregular church meeting in opposition to the orderly, approved, and established congregation led by Rev. Samuel Newman. All such schismatical activity, the petitioners urged, should cease forthwith. The court responded mildly enough, by ordering the group (in Holmes' words) "to desist, and neither to ordain officers, nor to baptize, nor to break bread together, nor yet to meet upon the first day of the week..." Holmes and his followers would not find peace in Plymouth nor in Massachusetts Bay, so once more he sold his house and lands and moved to Newport, Rhode Island, hoping that he had left behind for good the meddling civil magistrates, the condescending clergy, the intrusive and insolent laws.

    On July 16, 1651, John Clarke, John Crandall and Obadiah Holmes journeyed from Newport into MA, coming to the town of Lynn on the 19th of that month. The purpose of the visit was to bring spiritual comfort and communion to one William Witter, a blind and aged fellow Baptist who had invited the three to come to his house. The broader purpose was, of course, an evangelical one: to tell of the new baptism and its import to all who would hear. And indeed the word was proclaimed, converts were baptized, the elements of the Lord's Supper were served - all of this done privately in William Witter's home.

    On Sunday, July 20, two constables entered the house. "With their clamorous tongues" they interrupted Clarke's discourse, "telling us that they were come with authority from the Magistrates to apprehend us." Clarke asked to see the authority for so rude an intrusion, "whereupon they plucked forth their warrant, and one of them with a trembling hand read it to us." The three Rhode Islanders were placed under arrest and taken to the local "Ale-house or Ordinary", Anchor Tavern, to be fed and to await their scheduled appearance before the local magistrate, Robert Bridges, early the next morning.

    One of the constables suggested to the 3 prisoners that if they were free, then all might go together to the Lynn church for evening services. Clarke replied (humor presumably intended) that if they were free, none of this awkwardness would have happened. Yet, he said, we are at your disposal and if you want us to go to church we will go to church. Off they went, but on the way Clarke informed the constable that if forced to attend "your meeting, we shall declare our dissent from you both by word and gesture." Believing this to be a problem for sacred officers, not civil ones, the constable held his peace. Upon entering the church, where services were already underway, the three visitors took off their hats, "civilly saluted", sat down, and put their hats back on again. This action was more than rude; the replacing of hats was an open declaration of disapproval of whatever was being said or done. The constable quickly snatched three hats from three irreverent heads and afterwards, the three were returned to the tavern where they were "watched over that night as thieves and robbers." In the morning, after a brief appearance before Robert Bridges in Lynn, the itinerant evangelists were sent to Boston for trial.

    They were committed to the common jail. The mittimus, or court order for commitment to prison, indicated essentially four complaints against the "strangers". They had offended by (a) conducting a private worship service at the same time as the town's public worship; (b) "offensively disturbing" the public meeting in Lynn; (c) more seriously, "seducing and drawing aside others after their erroneous judgment and practices"; and (d) "neglecting or refusing to give in sufficient security for their appearance" at the next meeting of the county court.

    The trial before the General Court began one week later. The trial itself was so swiftly consummated that the accused hardly knew it was done. We were examined in the morning, wrote Clarke, and sentenced in the afternoon - sentenced "without producing either accuser, witness, jury, law of God or man..." It was the assumption of Governor Endicott and his assistants of the guilt of the accused and cut off any defense when Holmes and Clarke tried to speak. The members of the court shot questions at them, or made statements to them, which showed their guilt prejudged. The violence of some of the bystanders, in the presence of the court, and without its rebuke, went so far that Holmes was assaulted, struck, and cursed by Rev. John Wilson. This happened while Holmes was in the custody of an officer, in the presence of the court, and within the protection of the law.

    The penalty which the law provided was banishment. But what sort of punishment is it to "banish" persons who already live in another jurisdiction? Obviously, some other manner of rebuke had to be meted out, whether the law made provision for it or not. Clarke, clearly the spokesman and leader of the group, was fined £20; Crandall, as a tag-along and largely silent companion, was fined only £5. But Obadiah Holmes, already under the cloud of excommunication from the church in Rehoboth, received the largest fine of £30. All the fines provided for a hard alternative: to be paid in full or else the culprit was to be "well whipped". Until the fines were paid or satisfaction otherwise received, all three were to remain in jail.

    They were not without friends and sympathizers, however. The friends of Clarke and Crandall speedily raised the amounts of their fines and paid them. The fine of Holmes was higher and required a little more time to raise the amount, but his friends were ready to pay it. When he learned what they were proposing to do, he promptly forbade the payment of the fine, making it a matter of his conscience and scruples.

    After another week, Clarke was released when friends paid his fine. John Crandall put up bail and went home. So only Holmes remained in prison, adamantly refusing to pay his fine or to let others pay it for him. The court's explicit alternatie awaited him - to be "well-whipped". The 5th day of Sep 1651 came and he was taken from the jail, stripped naked down to the waist - he refused to aid by touching even a button of his clothing - tied to the post and publicly whipped.
    There were thirty strokes, with a three-cord whip, held by the executioner, not in one hand, but in both hands. The strokes did not follow each other quickly or lightly. They were laid on slowly and with all the strength of the officer wielding the instrument of torture. Throughout, there was not a groan or murmur from the victim. The first sound from his lips were the words to the magistrates, who stood about as witnesses, "You have struck me as with roses."

    After his release from jail, Holmes returned to Newport and in 1652 succeeded Dr. John Clarke. He became the second minister of the first Baptist Church in America. The church at Newport was his permanent charge for more than thirty years until his death on October 15, 1682.

    Reference to his will is found in a list of seventeen wills (between 1676 and 1695) that were presented to the court in 1700, by parties interested, the law requiring three witnesses, and these wills having but two. He was buried in his own field, where a tomb was erected to his memory (in what is now the town of Middletown). His wife did not long survive him.

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    Last Will and Testament of Reverend Obadiah Holmes
    These are to signify that I, Obadiah Holmes of Newport on Rhode Island, being at present through the goodness and mercy of my God of sound memory; and, being by daily intimations put in mind of the frailty and uncertainty of this present life, do therefore - for settling my estate in this world which it has pleased the Lord to bestow upon me - make and ordain this my Last Will and Testament in manner following, committing my spirit unto the Lord that gave it to me and my body to the earth from whence it was taken, in hope and expectation that it shall thence be raised at the resurrection of the just.

    Imprimis, I will that all my just debts which I owe unto any person be paid by my Executor, hereafter named, in convenient time after my decease.

    Item. I give and bequeath unto my daughter, Mary Brown, five pounds in money or equivalent to money.

    Item. I give and bequeath unto my daughter, Martha Odlin, ten pounds in the like pay.

    Item. I give and bequeath unto my daughter, Lydia Bowne, ten pounds.

    Item. I give and bequeath unto my two grandchildren, the children of my daughter, Hopestill Taylor, five pounds each; and if either of them decease, the survivor to have ten pounds.

    Item. I give and bequeath unto my son, John Holmes, ten pounds.

    Item. I give and bequeath unto my son, Obadiah Holmes, ten pounds.

    Item. I give and bequeath unto my grandchildren, the children of my son Samuel Holmes, ten pounds to be paid unto them in equal portions.

    All these portions by me bequeathed, my will is, shall be paid by my Executor in money or equivalent to money.

    Item. I give and bequeath unto all my grandchildren now living ten pounds; and ten shillings in the like pay to be laid out to each of them - a bible.

    Item. I give and bequeath unto my grandchild, Martha Brown, ten pounds in the like pay.

    All [of] which aforesaid legacies are to be paid by my Executor, hereafter named in manner here expressed: that is to say, the first payment to [be] paid within one year after the decease of my wife, Catherine Holmes, and twenty pounds a year until all the legacies be paid, and each to be paid according to the degree of age.

    My will is and I do hereby appoint my son Jonathan Holmes my sole Executor, unto whom I have sold my land, housing, and stock for the performance of the same legacies above. And my will is that my Executor shall pay unto his mother, Catherine Holmes, if she survives and lives, the sum of twenty pounds in money or money pay for her to dispose of as she shall see cause.

    Lastly, I do desire my loving friends, Mr. James Barker, Sr., Mr. Joseph Clarke, and Mr. Philip Smith, all of Newport, to be my overseers to see this my will truly performed. In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal, this ninth day of April, 1681.

    Obadiah Hullme [Holmes][Seal]

    Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of

    Edward Thurston

    Weston Clarke

    (Edward Thurston, Sr., and Weston Clark appeared before the Council [of Newport], December 4, 1682, and did upon their engagements [pledges] declare and own that they saw Obadiah Holmes, deceased, sign seal and deliver the above written will as his act and deed; and, at the time of his sealing hereof, he was in his perfect memory, according to the best of our understandings. Taken before the Council, as attested. Weston Clarke, Town Clerk.)

    References

    Baptist Piety, "The Last Will & Testimony of Obadiah Holmes", Edwin S. Gaustad, Christian University Press, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 1978.
    The Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, John Osborne Austin, Genealogical Pub. Co., Baltimore, MD, 1969, (previously pub. 1887), pp. 103 - 104.

    TAG - The American Genealogist, Vol. 19, No. 4, Additions & Corrections to Austin's Genealogical Dictionary of RI, G. Andrews Moriarty, Demorest, GA, April 1943, p. 224.

    The Wightman Heritage, Wade C. Wightman, Gateway Press, Baltimore, MD, 1990, pp. 288 - 304.

    Plymouth Colony, Its History & People 1620 - 1691, Eugene Aubrey Stratton, Ancestry Publishing, Salt Lake City, UT, 1986, p. 306



    Other-Begin:
    Sept. 5,1651 he was taken from prison, stripped naked to the waist--he refused to aid by touching even a button of his clothing and was tied to a post and publicly whipped.
    (see full notes)

    Religion:
    New Jersey Historical Collections: Barber & Howe, p. 354 -- "The village of Middletown is in a fertile country, near the heart of the township. ...The Baptist church ... [was] the first of this denomination established in the State. ... The following were Baptists: Richard Stout, John Wilson, William Layton, John Stout, Walter Hall[Wall], William Compton, James Grover, John Cox, James Ashton, Jonathan Bown, Jonathan Holmes, John Bown, Obadiah Holmes, George Mount, Thomas Whitlock, John Beeckman, William Cheeseman, James Grover, Jr. ... The forenamed 18 men [were] constituents of the
    [Baptist] church of Middletown ... [in] ... the winter of 1668."
    --Ref. The Family of Stout
    (URL: http://wymple.gs.net/~longstrt/1718-n.html)

    Obadiah* married Katherine* Hyde on 20 Nov 1630 in Manchester, England. Katherine* (daughter of Gilbert* Hyde) was born in 1608 in Manchester, England; died in 1684 in Newport Co, Rhode Island. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Katherine* Hyde was born in 1608 in Manchester, England (daughter of Gilbert* Hyde); died in 1684 in Newport Co, Rhode Island.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Emigration: Bef 1640, Didsbury, England
    • Immigration: Bef 1640, Rhode Island

    Children:
    1. 1. Mary* Holmes, (immigrant) was born in 1639 in Lancashire, Leicestershire, England; died after 1690 in Providence Co, Rhode Island.
    2. Captain Jonathan Holmes, (immigrant) was born on 23 Jun 1633 in Manchester, England; died on 2 Oct 1712 in Newport Co, Rhode Island.
    3. Martha Holmes was born on 13 May 1640 in Newport, Newport Co, Rhode Island; died on 30 Dec 1711.
    4. Samuel Holmes was born before 20 Mar 1642 in Gravesend, New York; died in 1679.
    5. Obediah Holmes, Jr was born before 9 Jun 1644 in Newport, Newport Co, Rhode Island; died after 1689.
    6. John Holmes, Sr was born on 17 Aug 1654 in Newport Co, Rhode Island; died on 2 Oct 1712 in Newport Co, Rhode Island; was buried in Easton Lot, Middletown, Newport Co, Rhode Island.
    7. Lydia Holmes, (immigrant) was born in 1637 in Lancashire, England; died in 1693 in Middletown, Monmouth Co, New Jersey.
    8. Hopestill Holmes was born about 1651 in Rhode Island; died after 1672.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Robert* (Hulme) Holmes, Jr was born on 18 Aug 1578 in Reddish, Manchester, England (son of Robert* (Hulme) Holmes, Sr and Alice* (..) (Hulme) Holmes); died on 12 Nov 1640 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Birth: 18 Aug 1578, Stockport, Lancastershire, England

    Robert* married Katherine* Johnson on 8 Oct 1605 in Stockport, England. Katherine* was born about 1580 in England; died on 8 Aug 1630 in Stockport, England; was buried on 8 Sep 1630 in Stockport, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Katherine* Johnson was born about 1580 in England; died on 8 Aug 1630 in Stockport, England; was buried on 8 Sep 1630 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Birth: 15 Feb 1575, Manchester Cathedral, London, England

    Notes:

    i. John. Born bef 3 May 1607 in England. John was baptized in Stockport, England on 3 May 1607. John died bef 1640; he was 32.


    3
    ii.
    OBADIAH (~1606-1682)

    iii. Joan. Born bef 2 Feb 1610/1611 in England. Joan was baptized in Didsbury, England on 2 Feb 1610/1611.


    iv. Samuel. Buried on 2 Nov 1613 in Stockport, England.


    v. Samuel. Born bef 23 Feb 1616/1617 in England. Samuel was baptized in prb Didsbury, England on 23 Feb 1616/1617.


    vi. Nathaniel. Born bef 12 Jul 1618 in England. Nathaniel was baptized in Didsbury, England on 12 Jul 1618. Buried on 10 Sep 1631 in Stockport, England.


    vii. Robert. Born bef 25 Mar 1621 in England. Robert was baptized in Stockport, England on 25 Mar 1621.


    viii. Joseph. Buried on 13 Jun 1623 in Stockport, England.


    ix. Joseph.

    Children:
    1. 2. Rev. Obadiah* Holmes, Sr (immigrant) was born on 18 Mar 1606 in Didsbury, England; died on 15 Oct 1682 in Newport, Rhode Island (will).
    2. John Holmes was born before 3 May 1607 in Stockport, Cheshire, England; died before 1640.
    3. Joan Holmes was born before 2 Feb 1611 in England; died after 1612.
    4. Samuel Holmes was born before Nov 1613; died before 2 Nov 1613 in Stockport, Cheshire, England; was buried on 2 Nov 1613 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.
    5. Samuel Holmes was born before 23 Feb 1617; died after 1618.
    6. Nathaniel Holmes was born before 12 Jul 1618 in England; died before 10 Sep 1631 in Stockport, Cheshire, England; was buried on 10 Sep 1631 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.
    7. Robert Holmes was born before 25 Mar 1621; died after 1622.
    8. Joseph Holmes was born before 13 Jun 1623; died before 13 Jun 1623 in Stockport, Cheshire, England; was buried on 13 Jun 1623 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.
    9. Joseph Holmes was born about 1625 in England; died after 1626.

  3. 6.  Gilbert* Hyde was born about 1582 in England; died after 1608.
    Children:
    1. 3. Katherine* Hyde was born in 1608 in Manchester, England; died in 1684 in Newport Co, Rhode Island.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Robert* (Hulme) Holmes, Sr was born about 1555 in Reddish, Manchester, England; died on 14 Jan 1605 in Stockport, England.

    Notes:

    ROBERT HULME. Born abt 1555 in Of Reddish, Manchester, England. At the age of 3, Robert was baptized in Reddish, Manchester, England on 18 Aug 1558. Robert died in Stockport, Chesire, England on 13 Jan 1604/1605; he was 49. Robert married Alice (Alyce) ?. Born in England. Alice (Alyce) died in England. Buried on 7 Sep 1610 in Collegiate Church, Manchester, England. They had the following children:
    i. ROBERT (-1640)
    ii. John.
    iii. Jane.
    iv. ?.

    Robert* married Alice* (..) (Hulme) Holmes about 1572 in England. Alice* was born about 1555 in England; died on 7 Sep 1610 in Manchester, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Alice* (..) (Hulme) Holmes was born about 1555 in England; died on 7 Sep 1610 in Manchester, England.
    Children:
    1. Alice Holmes was born about 1573 in Capel, Surrey, England; died on 27 May 1609 in Surry, England.
    2. 4. Robert* (Hulme) Holmes, Jr was born on 18 Aug 1578 in Reddish, Manchester, England; died on 12 Nov 1640 in Stockport, Cheshire, England.