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Philip Williams

Male 1813 - Aft 1850  (38 years)


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  1. 1.  Philip Williams was born in 1813 in South Carolina (son of Thomas Williams and Susannah Carroll); died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Census: 25 Sep 1850, Jones Co, Mississippi
    • Research Notes: 02 Jul 2010; who is Ann Walters?

    Notes:

    Census:
    313/313 Thomas Williams 65 SC
    Susanna 55 SC
    Lewis 18 MS
    Thomas 15 MS
    Penny Landrum 20 MS
    William Williams 27 MS
    John 25 MS

    314/314 Williams Samuel 20 MS
    Sarah 16 MS

    315/315 Philip Williams 37 SC
    Meldria 35 SC
    Meldria 11 MS
    Dicey 10 MS
    Nancy 7 MS
    Vashti 5 MS
    Hannah 4 MS
    Ann Walters 25 MS (poss sister or sis-in-law)
    Malissa Walters 1 MS

    316/316 Horace Williams 19 MS
    Margaret 16 MS

    Philip married Meldria (..) Williams about 1839. Meldria was born in 1815 in South Carolina; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Meldria Williams was born in 1839 in Mississippi; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.
    2. Dicey Williams was born in 1840 in Mississippi; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.
    3. Nancy Williams was born in 1843 in Mississippi; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.
    4. Vashti Williams was born in 1845 in Mississippi; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.
    5. Hannah Williams was born in 1846 in Mississippi; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Thomas Williams was born in 1785 in Colleton District, South Carolina; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Census: 25 Sep 1850, Jones Co, Mississippi

    Notes:

    ID: I0067
    Name: Thomas WILLIAMS 1
    Sex: M
    Birth: 22 NOV 1785 in Colleton District SC
    Death: 24 JAN 1854 in Tx
    Burial: Unknown
    Note:
    William's goes back to Wales in Great Britain. Copied by many from the popular " William the Conqueror", a Norman. This is a patronymic surname. Patron = Father and Matron = Mother.
    The early history of our Thomas Williams born 1785 begins in Charleston District South Carolina and is murky. On the first census of the US in 1790 in SC in the St. Bartholomes Parish are only two Williams families. A Widow named Mrs Williams with one male under 16 and three females, including herself. No ages given. The other is John Williams with one male under 16 also. Either is possible as John is in our family too, but Thomas & Phillip is the most common given name in this family.
    On this same census and parish is Absolem Carrell with one male under 16 and three females. He was married 4 times and his children are difficult to pursue. Susannah born 1795 to the third wife. She will marry our Thomas Williams. Also on the same census is Edward Harper, and his son, Edward Harper, Jr. who is nicknamed "Ned" and he will wed Mary Carroll, Susannah's half-sister. These are mentioned by name in the History of Absolem Carrell by T R Carroll. Only a search of this District's probate, wills, land and tax records will help to clear up this mystery.
    One old note said that Absalom Carroll and family had land in "St Bartholomes Parish--Colleton District--on Parkers Ferry Road. Now a River Road near Jackson called Old Burned Church" [Road]. Pulling up stakes they moved to Madison County Ms [about 1815] as Ned and Tom are on the 1816 Natchez Territory Census. They lived somewhere along the Black River which is the western border of Madison County, Ms, according to the oral history from the James Carroll Williams family.
    The 1820 Perry County Ms census shows that Edward Harper and Absalom Carroll living close together, while Thomas Williams and family were near by. Wayne, Covington, Lawrence, Greene & Perry County were being re-formed to make room for Jones Co. Named after that Sailor, John Paul Jones, another good Welsh surname. The 1837, 1841 & 1853 State Census of Jones Co-Ms is very telling about our family and some of those who married into it. For instance on the 1837 Census, Darling Herrington is living between Thomas and Phillip Williams. That is Father & Son. Darling had married Mary Eleanor Williams, daughter of Thomas and sister of Phillip.
    On the 1850 Jones Co Census in dwelling #313 is Thomas and Susannah. Living with them are the boys; Lewis, 18 yrs old. Thomas Absalom, 15 yrs old, {This writer "Ken Williams" Great Grand-Father}; William H, 27 yrs old, John Byrd, 25 yrs old, and a Penny Landrum, 20 yrs old. Next door in #314 is Samuel Myers Williams and wife Sarah A McLeonard. Next door in #315 is Phillip Williams and wife Mildred Walters. House hold # 316 is Horace Williams and wife Margaret. Back in HH #250 is James Carroll Williams and Christian McGilvray. James is shown as Thomas C Williams which has caused many problems.
    Not much is known of this family while they lived in Jones Co Ms. They lived on the Bogue Homa [Red Bayou] a few miles East of Laurel.. On the reconstructed Jones Co Tax Rolls from 1827 through 1841 they paid their taxes. All of these SC and MS Williams except for Charles Williams are gone in the odd 1853 Jones Co Ms Census. This could be a brother or cousin to Thomas. The name Charles was carried on down to my oldest Uncle who died young. They came to Tyler County Tx in 1852-3 and later branched out to the following counties; Brazos, Harris, Leon, Montgomery, Robertson and Tyler.
    They came in a large group of about 100 families by covered wagons according to the hand me down history from James Carroll Williams through the generations to Theodore Williams and his notes of 1960. Which said they came from New Orleans. The probable route was from New Orleans through Alexandria and Nacogdoches. This route was on high ground and passable most of the time.
    Thomas was granted (1 League) 4428 acres for ranching and (1labor) 177 acres for farming in Montgomery Co Tx and was granted a patent for same per his grandson Benjamin Thomas Williams.
    Some of the Williams boys left Tyler county prior to 1860. Their is records of them working on the Roads and Bridges to 1858. The Civil War 1861-1865 further dispersed and reduced this family so it is difficult to trace and I'm sure there is errors. kw


    Marriage 1 Susannah CARROLL b: 1795 in Colleton District SC
    ?Married: 9 MAR 1809 in Carolina's 2
    ?Note: Miss Mabel Mabry who searched this line shows a marriage date of 1818, and since I don't know where she found this date I will go with our old Williams Family Bible, copyrighted 1828, where the marriage notes say March 9, 189. We take this to be 1809 and as cousin Billie Jean Reome explained it could be written down by someone in the family that could write, perhaps a child, and if told 18--9, then the zero was simply left out. kw & bjr
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    Sources:
    1.Title: Williams Family Bibles of 1828 and 1880
    Text: 1840 and 1850 Jones Co Ms Census. Many notes from Williams cousins of East Texas. Jean Strickland's book "Who Married Whom in Jones Co Ms". Tax Records from Jones Co Ms. Tyler Co Tx census's and Minutes of the Court. 2.Title: Williams Family Bible, Copywrite of 1828.

    http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kgw68&id=I0067

    Census:
    313/313 Thomas Williams 65 SC
    Susanna 55 SC
    Lewis 18 MS
    Thomas 15 MS
    Penny Landrum 20 MS
    William Williams 27 MS
    John 25 MS

    314/314 Williams Samuel 20 MS
    Sarah 16 MS

    315/315 Philip Williams 37 SC
    Meldria 35 SC
    Meldria 11 MS
    Dicey 10 MS
    Nancy 7 MS
    Vashti 5 MS
    Hannah 4 MS
    Ann Walters 25 MS
    Malissa Walters 1 MS

    316/316 Horace Williams 19 MS
    Margaret 16 MS

    Thomas married Susannah Carroll on 09 Mar 1809 in South Carolina. Susannah was born in 1795 in Colleton District, South Carolina; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Susannah Carroll was born in 1795 in Colleton District, South Carolina; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.

    Notes:

    ID: I124607
    Name: Susannah Carroll
    Given Name: Susannah
    Surname: Carroll
    Sex: F
    Change Date: 18 APR 2010
    Note:
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    From Ken Williams Tree, Williams & McWilliams of East Texas, on rootsweb:

    The O'Carroll's are from Ireland. Many dropped the O after arriving in the New Country, USA. Susannah's birth year taken from the 1850 Jones County Ms census as she is 55 so born about 1795 in South Carolina. Absalom's first two wives died childless and the third wife had Susannah.... His fourth wife is Eleanor Robinson." So mother unknown. Eleanor was step-mother.
    And so our earliest Family History begins with the oral stories from the Carroll family as recorded by Thomas Robinson Carroll in 1909 from a letter he wrote to his brother, Absalom Washington Carroll. These are Susannah's nephews. T R Carroll was living in Washington Louisiana at this time.
    Original letter is owned by Mrs Ora Vivian Pittman Robinson of Dallas Tx. Mr Rupert Francis Carroll of Victoria Tx did the transcription. Both are descendents of Absalom Washington Carroll.

    Washington, La. November 16, 1909

    "Many years ago in Corks in Ireland their was a young man by the name of Absalum Carroll. He married a young lady I do not know her name. Young Carroll brought his wife to the United States landing in Baltamore, Maryland. From their they moved to South Carolina. There they had five sons born to them. Carroll and wife both died leaving five little boys, their names were Britten, Absalum, John, James, and Moses. They being very poor they were given to different families to be raised. Absalum was given to a family in Collington District in South Carolina. He remained with that family until he was 21 years old. About that time George Washington the father of his county was made chief commander of the army of the Revolutionary War and he served under General Washington until the close of the war and he was honorably discharged. Absalum Carroll then returned to his old home in South Carolina, Collington District. He then married a young lady but she did not live very long. She died leaving Absalum a widower. He married a second young lady she only lived a short while leaving Absalum Carroll a widower the second time. In a short while he married a third wife. With that wife he was blessed with a girl babe, her name was Susannah. Well Absalum Carroll being a very popular man among the ladys, of course he married his fourth wife, another young lady by the name of Ellenor Robinson. Well they were blessed with another fine daughter her name was Mary. So Susannah Carroll, his first daughter married a man by the name of Thomas Williams. [Ben Williams grandparents].
    His daughter Mary got grown she married a man by the name of Edward Harper. Absalum Carroll's next child was a boy he named Benjamin, the next was a daughter, her name was Harriet, the next a daughter, her name was Sarah, the next was a son, his name was John Edward. This one is my father. The next daughter, her name was Martha, the next was a boy, his name was Moses, the next a boy his name was James, and last a boy, his name was Absalum.
    So by this time old Absalum Carroll decided he would leave Collington District and move farther south. He and his son-in-laws "Tom" Williams and "Ned" Harper pulled up stakes and moved to Jones County Mississippi, on the Bouge Hommer and Indian name meaning red bayou. Now Ben Carroll married Hulda Harper, a ministers daughter. Harriett Carroll married Daniel McDonald. Sarah Carroll married Samuel Clark, John Edward married Mary Strain, this is my mother. Moses Carroll died when a boy, James Carroll married Mary Clark, Martha Carroll married Allen Hargrove, young Absalum married a lady that I did not know. I never saw him but wonce.

    [ I have edited some of this out ] kw

    My Grandfather Carroll never saw but one of his brothers after they were separated, the brother he saw was Britten, they were then old men. Absalum Carroll, my grandfather was going from Mississippi to South Carolina to close up his unfinished business and on his way met Britten, they both happened to stop at the same house to stay all night."
    T R Carroll
    Grandson to Absalum Carroll

    And for us Williams, Thomas Absalom Williams is Absalum Carroll's Grandson also. And Ben T Williams is a Great Grandson. kw
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    ?Birth: 1795 in Colleton District, South Carolina USA
    ?Death: Y




    Marriage 1 Thomas Williams b: 22 NOV 1785 in Colleton District, South Carolina USA
    ?Married: 9 MAR 1809 in South Carolina USA (Possibly)
    ?Note:
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    From Ken Williams Tree, Williams & McWilliams of East Texas, on rootsweb:

    Miss Mabel Mabry who searched this line shows a marriage date of 1818, and since I don't know where she found this date I will go with our old Williams Family Bible, copyrighted 1828, where the marriage notes say March 9, 189. We take this to be 1809 and as cousin Billie Jean Reome explained it could be written down by someone in the family that could write, perhaps a child, and if told 18--9, then the zero was simply left out. kw & bjr
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    Children
    1. Thomas Absalom Williams b: 9 MAR 1835 in Jones County Mississippi USA

    Sources:
    1.Abbrev: Family Archives of Hooper / Crosby / Bianchi and Related Families
    Title: Twig, Tree & Treasure A Genealogical Sojourn
    Bianchi's Twig, Tree & Treasure A Genealogical Sojourn
    by Linda & Mike Bianchi, email: twigtree@milin.net
    The project started in earnest during the 1960's and has continued sporadically from then on with help by various family members and a lot of friends. Oral and documented family information was complied by Linda Bianchi nee Hooper and Barbara Hooper nee Crosby, later augmented with additions by Lee and Cathy nee Hooper Galloway. A special Thank You to Michele Yvonne Hayward Tate and her family and to Amy Holtgrewe Haertling and her family, for their generous help. The project continues to be updated and expanded by Linda and Mike Bianchi.
    Not all of the source data is listed simply because the data is a compilation from many different sources, most which were family oral history records. Some data will have individuals or groups listed as the source of information. While these persons should be credited and are thanked for making significant contributions to this work, they should by no means be construed as being the only source for that particular data or as the only person to have worked on that line.
    2.Abbrev: Family Archives of Williams Family
    Title: Williams & McWilliams of East Texas
    Compiled by Ken Williams
    Updated: 19 January 2010
    located on rootsweb.com

    http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=crystalinda22&id=I124607

    Children:
    1. 1. Philip Williams was born in 1813 in South Carolina; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.
    2. William H Williams was born in 1823 in Mississippi; died before 1880 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.
    3. John Williams was born in 1825 in Mississippi; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.
    4. Lewis Williams was born in 1832 in Mississippi; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.
    5. Penny Williams was born in 1830 in Mississippi; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.
    6. Samuel Williams was born in 1830 in Missi; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.
    7. Horace Williams was born in 1831 in Mississippi; died after 1850 in of, Jones Co, Mississippi.
    8. Thomas Williams was born in 1835 in Mississippi; died after 1850 in of, Mississippi.