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John S. West

Male 1795 - 1875  (79 years)


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  1. 1.  John S. West was born on 21 Apr 1795 in Saratoga, New York; died on 01 Feb 1875 in Brant, Erie Co, New York; was buried in Brant Cem, Brant, Erie Co, New York.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Census: 21 Aug 1850, Brant, Erie Co, New York

    Notes:

    History of Buffalo and Erie Coounty:
    "In the year 1818, John Roberts, John West, and Major Campbell came to the territory of Brant. Roberts settled on the road leading from Brant Centre to Farnham. Ansel Smith and Robert and William Grannis came soon after. John West located to the east of the Centre; his widow is still living at an advanced age, and five of their children are also living, vis.: Thomas, john and Jonathan West, Mrs. Richard Sherman and Mrs. Joseph Hill. Major Campbell settled east of the center, and after a long residence there moved to Buffalo." page 624.

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    One source (Bowen.FTW) states that John West was born in Saratoga County, NY. Another source (Ball.FTW) states that he was born in Cayuga Co.

    IF you assume that John West was the son of George West (this is not proven), then the following has credence:

    In the 1800 US Census, there were no George West men in Cayuga Co, NY, but there was one in Ballston, Saratoga, NY on p. 1082. His family shows 3 boys under 10, one girl under 10, and a male and female both between 26-44. This fits the George West family as I have documented it. John, having been born in 1796 would have been 4.

    In 1810, there are only 2 George West men in all of New York State. One who does not fit was in NYC. The other was in Aurelius, Cayuga, NY on p. 1200. This family matches the George West family that was in Saratoga, quite well. It shows 1 boy under 10, 2 boys between 10-15, 1 16-25, and 1 adult male older than 45. It also shows an adult femail between 26-44. If John is part of this family, he would have been 14 and could be one of the boys between 10-15.

    In 1820, there are 4 George West men in all of New York State. The one that matches best was in Scipio, Cayuga, NY. It shows 2 boys 10-15 and one male older than 45. One girl under 10, 1 girl 10-15, and one female over 45. This is not a perfect match but is the best of the lot. Note that John who would have been 24 in 1820 is not in Scipio.

    While there are two John West men in Cayuga County in 1820, they are too old to be the son of George. Instead, I found a John West in Eden, Niagara, NY that seems to match. In 1820, Erie County had not yet been formed - it was a part of Niagara County. When Erie County was formed in 1823, Eden became part of Erie. This census record shows one boy under 10 (John's son George), and one girl under 10 (John's daughter, Armida). It also shows one adult male between 16-25 that would fit John, and one female between 16-25 that fits his wife Avis.

    So, we have a good story going. John was in all likelihood born in Ballston, Saratoga, NY in 1796. His parents and their family moved to Aurelius Town, Cayuga, NY prior to 1810. While his parents continued to live in Cayuga County through 1820, John moved his family to Eden, Niagara (which later became Erie), NY and lived there in 1820.

    Sounds good until we get to 1830. In 1830, John West is no longer in Eden, Erie, NY. There is an Asa West and a Matthew West there - but no John. I went through the census images frame by frame. The best match for John's family in 1830 is back in Sempronius, Cayuga, NY, p. 88. This family matches John's family very, very well.

    In 1840, the best match is in Brant, Erie, NY on p. 170. This family also matches John's family very, very well.

    In 1850, we finally know for certain that John and Avis are in Brant as the census on p. 334 lists all of their names.

    Given this, we have to suggest that John moved back to Cayuga County some time between 1820 (after the census) and 1830 (before the census). Then between 1830 and 1840, he again moved back to Erie County where he stayed the rest of his life.

    Note that in 1850, the George West discussed above was living in Brant, Erie, NY with Stephen West in the household next door to John and Avis. I believe that the circumstantial evidence is pretty strong that John's parents were George and Tryphena West and that Stephen was a brother of John's. But it is not proven.

    My conclusion is that it is more likely that John was born in Saratoga County - not Cayuga County. But, I believe that John West lived in Cayuga County for a time as a child and again as a married man before finally settling in Brant, Erie, NY where he died and was buried.

    http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=akin&id=P-311673317


    Census:
    828 West John 54 1796 NY
    Avis wife 41 1809 Vermont
    Matthew 26 1824 NY
    Elizabeth 16 1834 NY
    John 13 1837 NY
    Jonathan 13 1837 NY
    Sarah 19 1831 NY
    George A. 1849 Wisconsin
    West Annis 11 1839 NY

    829 Stephen West 57 1793 NY
    Elvira 50 1880 NY
    Edwin 19 1831 NY
    Paulina 17 1833 NY
    Mariett 14 1836 NY
    Marshal J. 1839 11 NY
    Augusta 9 1841 NY
    West George 81 1769 Massachusetts
    West Tryphena 80 1770 Connecticut



    John married Avis Bowen on 12 Feb 1816 in Niagra Co (now Erie Co), New York. Avis (daughter of Jennings Bowen and Armida Akin) was born on 06 Sep 1798 in Shaftsbury, Bennigton, Vermont; died after 1884 in Erie Co, New York; was buried in Brant Cem, Brant, Erie Co, New York. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Thomas West  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1817; died after 1850 in of, Brant, Erie Co, New York.
    2. 3. John West  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1819; died after 1850 in of, Brant, Erie Co, New York.
    3. 4. Jonathan West  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1820; died after 1850 in of, Brant, Erie Co, New York.
    4. 5. Susan West  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Feb 1822 in Erie Co, New York; died in 1905 in Brant, Erie Co, New York; was buried in Brant Cem, Brant, Erie Co, New York.
    5. 6. (daughter) West  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1824; died after 1850 in of, Collins, Erie Co, New York.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Thomas West Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born about 1817; died after 1850 in of, Brant, Erie Co, New York.

  2. 3.  John West Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born about 1819; died after 1850 in of, Brant, Erie Co, New York.

  3. 4.  Jonathan West Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born about 1820; died after 1850 in of, Brant, Erie Co, New York.

  4. 5.  Susan West Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born in Feb 1822 in Erie Co, New York; died in 1905 in Brant, Erie Co, New York; was buried in Brant Cem, Brant, Erie Co, New York.

    Notes:

    Her siblings and ancestors:
    http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=akin&id=P-311673283

    Susan married Richard Sherman in 1839 in New York. Richard (son of (son - bro of Jacob Haven?) Sherman and Mrs. Elizabeth (..) /Sherman Butts, (?)) was born in Jan 1814 in Montgomery Co, New York; died in 1905 in Brant, Erie Co, New York; was buried in Brant Cem, Brant, Erie Co, New York. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. Armida (Andinda) (Auduidi) A. Sherman  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1842 in New York; died after 1850 in of, Brant, Erie Co, New York.
    2. 8. John W. Sherman  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Jul 1848 in New York; died in 1925 in Brant, Erie Co, New York; was buried in Brant Cem, Brant, Erie Co, New York.
    3. 9. Avis E. Sherman  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Jul 1849 in Brant, Erie Co, New York; died after 1850 in Brant, Erie Co, New York.

  5. 6.  (daughter) West Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born about 1824; died after 1850 in of, Collins, Erie Co, New York.

    (daughter) married Joseph Hill about 1844. Joseph was born about 1822; died after 1850 in of, Collins, Erie Co, New York. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]



Generation: 3

  1. 7.  Armida (Andinda) (Auduidi) A. Sherman Descendancy chart to this point (5.Susan2, 1.John1) was born in 1842 in New York; died after 1850 in of, Brant, Erie Co, New York.

  2. 8.  John W. Sherman Descendancy chart to this point (5.Susan2, 1.John1) was born in Jul 1848 in New York; died in 1925 in Brant, Erie Co, New York; was buried in Brant Cem, Brant, Erie Co, New York.

  3. 9.  Avis E. Sherman Descendancy chart to this point (5.Susan2, 1.John1) was born in Jul 1849 in Brant, Erie Co, New York; died after 1850 in Brant, Erie Co, New York.