1. | Margaret Orear was born about 1699 in Prince William Co, Virginia; died after 1800 in Virginia; was buried in Rockburn Cem, King George Co, Virginia. Other Events and Attributes:
- Other-Begin: Prince William Co, Virginia
- Other-Begin: 10 May 1708, Richmond Co, Virginia; ),(
- Research Notes: 9 Dec 2012; two Margaret Orears
Notes:
Other-Begin:
A King George Co., VA deed refers to the grantors "William Thorn and Mary his wife, widdow and relique of John Oreo late of Prince William County, deceased" along with "John Glascock & Margaret his wife, daughter of the said John Oreo & Mary his wife. . . " all selling their interests to Cornelius McCartie of Brunswick Parish, King George Co., VA
Cornelius McCartie (b. ca. 1766) was married 2 Dec 1787 to Susannah "Sukey" Hardwick (born 1767), dau. of Margaret Glascock (b. ca. 1745) and her first husband Aaron Hardwick (she m. 2nd to William Turley). Margaret Glascock was the dau. of John Glascock and wife Margaret Orear (above referenced). By the way, Cornelis and Susannah McCartie later moved to Fayette Co., KY ca. 1797; in 1809 they were residents of Otter Creek in Hardin Co., KY (now Meade Co.); they had 11 children, one of whom was named Enos Orear McCarty.]
Other-Begin:
Robert Peck and wife Margaret of St. Mary's Parish, Richmond Co., VA, execute a lifetime lease to John and Mary Orian[Oriar] of Stafford Co., VA for 100 acres of land. After John and Mary Oriar's deaths, the land is to go to their daughter Margaret Oriar. Robert Peck states that this transaction is for "the love, goodwill, and affection which I have and bare towards my loving friend, Margaret Oriar, dau. to John and Mary Oriar."
Research Notes:
Margaret Orear married to Scarlett Madden can't be the same Margaret Orear who married John Glasscock. Lots of confusion on various records.
rootsweb thread concerning this issue:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/OREAR/1997-03/0859168227
From:
Subject: Parents of Margaret OREAR and Scarlet MADDEN
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:54:59 -0500 (EST)
My fifth great grandparents were Scarlet Madden and Margaret Orear. I do not know when they married, but I do know that they lived in Prince William County, Va, and that they had married before 26 June 1749 at which time Scarlet leased 200 acres of land from George Brent for the natural lives of
Scarlet, his wife, Margaret, and their son, George, or the survivor of them.
Scarlet died in Prince William County in 1796. Margaret was still living in 1800 when she sold the 200 acres of land that had been acquired in 1749.
I have had no success identifying with certainty the parents of either Scarlet or Margaret. I have theorized that Scarlet was a son of John Madden, who received a 576-acre grant of land near Goose Run in Prince William County from Lord Fairfax on 6 April 1730. The land was adjacent to land owned by John and Daniel Orear, who had patented their 400-acre tract on 11 August 1711, when the area was part of Stafford County. It seems likely that either John Orear or Daniel Orear was the father of Margaret Orear, but I have not been able to identify her father with any certainty.
Any information that might help in identifying the parents of Margaret or Scarlet would be greatly appreciated.
A. E. (Tony) Collier 32 Revonah Circle Stamford, CT 06905 (203) 348-9554
From: Donna Sarchet
Subject: Re: Parents of Margaret OREAR and Scarlet MADDEN
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:50:27 -0600
Tony--
I have come across a reference to an Orear/Madden connection before via another O'Rear researcher, Mrs. Mildred Waddell. Mildred is descended from Mary O'Rear (dau. of John Orear who came to GA), who m. Jesse Brantley in 1797 in Hancock Co., GA. However, Mildred has done a *great deal* of research on early Orears in NC and VA and has discovered
"missing" females that were not previously included in Edward O'Rear's privately printed O'Rear Sketchbook. Mildred also lives near Salt Lake City and does extensive research at the LDS library there. She is quite elderly and is not on-line, but she is still quite the avid researcher and answers letters promptly. Her address:
Mrs. Mildred Waddell
P.O. Box 454
Coalville, UT 84017
I've pulled from my files a couple of letters that Mildred wrote me in 1990 about the Maddens, etc., and it appears that at that time even she was having difficulty straightening things out. Various information had been submitted to the LDS temple without documentation and different family history books cited different relationships -- some without references. Here are some abstracts of what Mildred included about the Madden family:
1. a copy of a family group sheet on the family of John Orear (b. ca. 1712 Prince Wm. Co., VA--son of Esther Rennoe, d. ca. 1805) and wife Malinda Madden (b. ca. 1722) of Prince Wm. Co., VA. Ch listed for this couple: Jeremiah (m. Nancy Catlett), Mary Ann (m. James Chamberlayne), Benjamin (m. Mary Catlett), John (m. Sarah Davis), Elizabeth, Margaret
(b. 13 Feb 1753) m. Benjamin Jameson, Jesse m. Melinda Holton, Daniel m. Ann Luckett, William m. Annie Calk, Enoch m. Hannah Rennoe. [I have more detailed information on birth dates, etc. on these ch.--DS]
This was submitted by Norma Y. Ericksen in the 1950s to Salt Lake. At that time she resided in Los Angeles and cited as her source "research records of Lee Orear, p. 1."
Note: Ed O'Rear's Sketchbook attributes the above children to John Orear (b. Stafford Co., VA 1713, d. Prince Wm. Co., VA 1805) and Miss --?-- Renno, dau. of Francis Rennoe.
2. a copy of Scarlett Madden's will, naming wife Margaret, granddau. Betsy Madden, and "rest of estate to be divided between Elizabeth Glasscock, Frances Reno, Peggy Cox, Franny Newman (each a child's part), John Posey Newman, and Kesia Stone 1 s (share?) each. Exec: wife, Daniel Oraire, Enoch Orear; Wit: John Prosser, Jesse Barron, John Barron.
3. copy of Fanny Shute's will (Prince Wm. Co., VA 3 May 1784) where she names sister Peggy Madden, Niece Fanny Newman, legatees--George Madden's 2 daus. Sucky and Betsy Madden, Sister Frances Reno. Exec: Father Scarlet Madden and Wm. Orear. Wit: Daniel Orear, Enoch, Elizabeth.
Note from Mildred: Daniel, Enoch, and Eliz. Orear appear to be the ch. of John & Malinda (Madden) O'Rear according the family group sheet enclosed.
4. There is some question as to whether there is one or two Margaret Orears during this time period in Prince Wm. Co., VA. A book on the Glasscock family ("The Glas(s)cock/Glassco Saga") states the following on p. 163 in the Additions and Corrections section:
"Proof that Margaret, wife of John [I assume this means John
Glasscock--DS] was Margaret O'Rear is in King George Co., VA Deed Bk 7-6-1733. She was the dau. of John and Mary O'Rear: 'John and Margaret Glasscock sell land that Margaret had inherited from her parents, John and Mary Orea (Orear)'"
Note from DS (me): This John and Mary (Lawson?) Orea/Orear were the parents of 1) Daniel Larson (Lawson?) Orear (b. Stafford Co., VA 1710, d. 1736 Prince Wm. Co., VA) who m. Esther Thorne, dau. of Wm. Thorne and
2) John Orear (m. to Miss Rennoe (Ed Orear) or Malinda Madden (family group sheet referred to above), and 3) Margaret m. John Glasscock.
Interestingly, after John Orear Sr. died, his widow Mary m. Wm. Thorne--her son's father-in-law. Mary and Wm. then had Susannah Thorne, who m. into the Rennoe/Reno family. But I digress...
Regarding the above, Mildred was trying to determine if Margaret was one person who married a Glasscock and later a Madden, or if there were two Margarets (note the Glasscock reference in Scarlet Madden's will). The IGI lists a John Glasscock/Margaret Orear marriage in 1723 in Lancaster, VA. There is also a vague reference to the marriage of a
Scarlet Madden in VA (no co. listed) with Margaret Orear 17??.
My experience with Mildred's research is that she thoroughly continues to see a problem through, so I have no doubt that she has collected additional material at this time. I also have two microfilms of Ed O'Rear's research that I bought from the KY State Archives, so when time permits, I'll look up Maddens along with some other items I've made a list of. There is no index to the microfilms, so looking through them
is pretty time consuming--albeit interesting.
I really haven't answered your question as to whom Scarlett and Margaret's parents are, except to say that Margaret O'Rear Madden possibly may have previously been married to John Glasscock; if so, then she is the dau. of John Orear and wife Mary (Larson?).
I hope I haven't just confused things further, and I will sort through my O'Rear notebooks to see if I have additional information. Back in the mid-1980s I briefly corresponded with a Mrs. Eva Genty in MO who was descended from Margaret Orear Glasscock. Perhaps she would be able to provide additional information, although as I recall her primary source was the Glasscock book. Also, hopefully someone else on the list has more information on this family.
Donna Sarchet
1807 Ennis
Plainview, TX 79072
(806) 293-2282
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Margaret married John Glasscock about 1728 in Lancaster, Virginia. John (son of Thomas Glasscock and Sarah Stone) was born on 4 Jan 1699 in Prince William Co, Virginia; died on 28 Jun 1784 in Leeds Parish, Fauquier Co, Virginia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 2. William Glasscock was born on 9 Apr 1729 in Rectortown, Fauquier Co, Virginia; died after 1730.
- 3. Thomas Glasscock was born on 9 Mar 1731 in Rectortown, Fauquier Co, Virginia; died after 1770.
- 4. Mary Glasscock was born on 30 Jul 1734 in Rectortown, Fauquier Co, Virginia; died on 27 May 1822 in Rectortown, Fauquier Co, Virginia.
- 5. John Glasscock was born on 21 Aug 1736 in Rectortown, Fauquier Co, Virginia; died after 1778 in Indiana Creek, Manongalia Co, Virginia.
- 6. Susan Glasscock was born on 28 Feb 1739 in Rectortown, Fauquier Co, Virginia; died after 1760.
- 7. George Glasscock was born on 2 Jul 1741 in Rectortown, Fauquier Co, Virginia; died on 4 Mar 1826 in Fauquier Co, Virginia.
- 8. Margaret Glasscock (or Orear) was born about 1744 in Rectortown, Fauquier Co, Virginia; died on 1 Feb 1815 in Fauquier Co, Virginia.
- 9. Hezekiah Glasscock was born on 22 Jun 1746 in Rectortown, Fauquier Co, Virginia; died on 1 Aug 1818 in Ralls Co, Missouri.
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